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First post, by chrisNova777

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i was just wondering if anyone knows if it would be possible to hack a wave table header into a midi + audio interface for an external module
the thought occurred to me. it must get midi information transmitted thru the header.. and also some type of digital audio returned back??
is the wavetable header really a combination of MIDI + SPDIF? combined with power for the daughterboard?

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Reply 2 of 9, by chrisNova777

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hey gdjacobs

that device is indeed very interesting... especially the midiboardchill .. to use a wavetable daughtercard as a standalone synth right?
but in this topic board i meant a reverse hack!

to use the wavetable header itself to connect something else (real hardware) INSTEAD OF a wavetable device.. as an extra audio INPUT + midi OUT
ie: to send midi out to an external hardware midi device/synth and send back the resulting audio back into the cards internal mixer

basically to hack the waveblaster header to act as additional midi + audio ports instead of hosting a wavetable card
and of course i wouldnt have thought of that without seeing the chill + phill.. but i wasnt aware of the other board..
thank u for sharing this info!

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Reply 3 of 9, by gdjacobs

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Don't see why not, but why wouldn't you use the external jacks for external gear? Have you got a specific idea in mind?

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Reply 4 of 9, by chrisNova777

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gdjacobs wrote:

Don't see why not, but why wouldn't you use the external jacks for external gear? Have you got a specific idea in mind?

i meant to use in addition to the regular.. so u could hook up two seperate external instruments..
theres only one midi port out .. and usually the wavetable has its own "internal midi" that shows up on software right?
to provide *additonal* aux in + midi out..... in addition to the ones already on the back of the card.

it was just an idea.. 😀 i dont think ill dwell on it because if it was a great idea then one of these sound companies should have done it already 😁

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Reply 5 of 9, by gdjacobs

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The two physical connections use the same MIDI UART. I think it would be more straightforward to split the MIDI output signal.

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Reply 6 of 9, by chrisNova777

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really? so its limited to 16 channels.... is there a number that gets automatically reserved to the wavetable device by default once its connected?

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Reply 7 of 9, by alexanrs

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The Wavetable UART pins and the gameport's are shorted... there is only one MIDI UART.
I think I suggested it before, but the EWS64XL features two MPU-401 compatible MIDI interfaces, but you need its front panel to access them at the same time. I believe there are other cards like that too. Other than that, you can use a regular sound card and couple it with something like hardMpu or keropi's MIDI card clone (or old MIDI interfaces if you can find those at a reasonable price)

Reply 8 of 9, by chrisNova777

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alexanrs: i would love to have that card, but probably not going to happen..
this thread was just an idea... for conversation. conceptual discussion.
not neccessarily related to what i need, or what i want. just exploring possibilities.

i will be set for my vintage midi needs very soon.
i have purchased an MPU-IPC-T (complete card + break out box), its on its way in the mail to me now. Along with an MPU-401 breakout box (missing the host card).
but i'm also trying to get other multiport MIDI interface hardware for dos (non-mpu compatible)

but wait. speaking of cards with more than one midi uart..
the awe32/sb32 must have more than one set of 16 midi channels? doesnt it?
as should most cards that have onboard midi-synths...
its confusing
number of midi channels / number of polyphony/voices
all this stuff gets complicated fast without documentation in front of you

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Reply 9 of 9, by alexanrs

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The issue with AWEs is that they have a second synth alright.... but it is on a proprietary interface that is not exposed to exernal synths, so it can drive nothing but the onboard EMU8K.