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First post, by sliderider

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc4R2A7xkPU&sns=fb

Looks pretty good. Is it time for a remake?

Reply 1 of 7, by Snayperskaya

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Unreal 4's being "free" (no upfront and you can release anything for free without paying them royalties) was one of the best things for this generation. I'm expecting a lot from it.

I think there was already a remake, at least sort of:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uAWDLOvkAg

Just for the X360, though. 🙁

Oh! There is (was?) a mod that used Half-Life 2/Source too, but it was multiplayer only. Tried it some years ago, great fun with friends.

Reply 2 of 7, by Kerr Avon

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That does look good. It's a pity it won't be made into a full game, though (I'd love to be proven wrong here).

Goldeneye is my second favourite game of all time, behind Perfect Dark.

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I think there was already a remake, at least sort of:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-uAWDLOvkAg

Just for the X360, though. 🙁
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That wasn't a remake. There's been no commercial remakes, and there can't be because the copyright for the N64 game is owned by three seperate companies; Rare (who are now owned by Microsoft, Microsoft really own Rare's rights), Nintendo, and the company who made the movie. For the game to be remade, you'd need the agreement of all three companies, which won't happen. six or eight years back, Rare were making a remake, and even showed some screens (it looked fantastic), but this project was then cancelled, without explanation. The rumour is that Rare and Nintendo both planned to make their own remakes, with the consent of MGM (the film's copyright holders) for the XBox 360, and Nintendo Wii, respectively, but (so the rumour went), Nintendo saw how much better the XBox 360 game looked compared to the Wii version, so Nintendo withdrew their permission (as they thought the 360 version would sell more XBox 360 consoles than the wii version of the game would sell Wii consoles) and the project died.

A Goldeneye-ish game did then come out for the Wii, Goldeneye: Reloaded (which is the game in that video link, above), but it wasn't too good, let alone even remotely as good as the N64 classic). It was basically Call of Duty in a James Bond setting, with mechanics mostly copied from Call of Duty, and felt nothing like Goldeneye N64. The makers of Goldeneye: Reloaded copied what little of Goldeneye N64 they could without getting sued, but the game did very little of what made the N64 game so great. The makers managed to get away with what they did by saying that Goldeneye: Reloaded was not based on the N64 game, but was instead based on the film Goldeneye, and since Goldeneye N64 was based on the same film, that was why the two games had so much in common. But I doubt Rare would have sued anyway, since as a game, Goldeneye N64 was so mediocre.

And a year or so later, Goldeneye: Reloaded was released on the XBox 360 anyway. So we got the generic Call of Duty reskin, but not Rare's extremely promising remake.

There was another attempt to make money off the Goldeneye N64 name - a game called Goldeneye: Rogue Agent appeared on the original XBox, PS2, and maybe the Gamecube, but it had almost nothing in common with the N64 game at all. In Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, you played an ex-MI6 agent, who went rogue (i.e. turned traitor and went to work for the enemy) and who got a bionic (computer enhanced) artificial golden coloured eye (and no, I'm not making that up). As a game it wasn't great, but I expect it sold a fair few copies just on the name.

Reply 3 of 7, by vladstamate

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Haha, I just realized that if what you say is true then Golden Eye might the ONLY game whose IP is owned by the 3 manufacturers of consoles:

Microsoft (by owning Rare)
Nintendo
Sony (by owning MGM)

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Reply 4 of 7, by mr_bigmouth_502

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It's a shame we likely won't ever see a re-release or remake of Goldeneye until intellectual property and trademark laws as we know them are abolished.

Reply 5 of 7, by leileilol

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IIRC the last one to hold the rights was Activision

not sure what happened after the shuttering of Eurocom when 007 Legends bombed.

You'd think someone would make a Golden64ex by now with all that reverse engineering done to make a level or port a game

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Reply 6 of 7, by sliderider

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mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

It's a shame we likely won't ever see a re-release or remake of Goldeneye until intellectual property and trademark laws as we know them are abolished.

On the day those laws are abolished, you won't be able to buy video games anymore because nobody will create them if it is legal for them to be shared without compensation to the rights holders. You also won't see new films or television shows made or new things invented.

Reply 7 of 7, by mr_bigmouth_502

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sliderider wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

It's a shame we likely won't ever see a re-release or remake of Goldeneye until intellectual property and trademark laws as we know them are abolished.

On the day those laws are abolished, you won't be able to buy video games anymore because nobody will create them if it is legal for them to be shared without compensation to the rights holders. You also won't see new films or television shows made or new things invented.

I'd be fine with that.