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Reply 20 of 32, by candle_86

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a 6200 compares to a Geforce3, I ran the tests. A ti 500 is marginally faster as games get newer, this means the FX 5200 and Radoen 9100 are out as they both got smoked by a Geforce 3 Ti 200.

Remember the Radeon 9000/9100/9200 where built to beat the MX440 and it ties it, while the FX 5200 actually looses to the MX 440

Reply 21 of 32, by Artex

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So at this point is it looking like the 6200, even with a 64-bit bus is the best bet?

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Reply 22 of 32, by adalbert

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I have a Radeon Mobility 9600 with 128bit memory,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It … N82E16814153028

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATI-96MXA-RADEON-9600 … FEAAOSwEetV~FbP
(mine has 128MB)

It doesn't have a half sized bracket but it might fit in such case. Some measurments and custom bracket would be needed. I remember it was scoring around 7000pts in 3dmark01 (with P3 1GHz), but unfortunately it was unstable with my 694x chipset and doesn't working with 693A.
The computer was freezing after few minutes of use, it was difficult for it to pass entire 3dmark test. I had to use Omega drivers because i couldn't find anything else working in 9x.
I also have GF6200 64bit and that Radeon was significantly faster.

Well, it is a pretty weird card. Mobile GPU in desktop PC, and actually pretty fast. Maybe i will try with 440BX mainboard later, those problems could be caused by that VIA chipset.

//UPDATE:
I found screenshot of a test with 1.13@1.24 GHz Tualatin. 7620 pts. I also attach GF6200 with same setup - 5458 pts, that's 39% difference.

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Reply 23 of 32, by dirkmirk

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That radeon 9600 PRO would be perfect if its fits, Definately the fastest card mentioned so far by a large margin.

AnD edit: The radeon 8500/9100 is just about an equal to the Geforce 3, so no it doesn't get smoked.

http://techreport.com/review/3538/nvidia-geforce4-ti-4200/3

Reply 24 of 32, by adalbert

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R9600 height: 67mm
GF6200 height: 56mm

thats the part sticking above the slot, connector is not included (it's ~ +10mm).

BTW it appears that official drivers are available for XP (i used them in my test), Omega drivers were needed in 9x.

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GUI programming for Windows 3.11 (the easy way): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6L272OApVg

Reply 27 of 32, by ODwilly

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Just a heads up I found that a 3.2ghz HT Northwood P4 with 2gb of ram and a pci Geforce 6200 is capable of running 1080p Youtube videos under Windows XP.

Main pc: Asus ROG 17. R9 5900HX, RTX 3070m, 16gb ddr4 3200, 1tb NVME.
Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 29 of 32, by FaSMaN

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Just something to note on the Geforce 6200 ,not all of them have windows 98se drivers, the DDR revision of the Geforce 6200 for the life of me I couldn't get to work , only later did I discover its cause there isnt any drivers for that revision.

Reply 30 of 32, by tayyare

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I would try the existing supply first before changing it to something else. My SFF HTPC has a Core2Duo E8400 with stock fan, two 60mm case fans, a 500GB WD black SATA II HDD, 2x2GB DDR3 RAM, a bluray drive, a PCIe USB3.0 adapter, and a H5450 1GB display card, and it works happily with its 200W PSU.

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 31 of 32, by Artex

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Who knew it would be this much of a challenge to find the right card! This was supposed to be a little fun side project.. I guess that's how these things go... Hehehe. 😎

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Reply 32 of 32, by Artex

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So not being able to find an HD3450 or HD4350 AGP low-profile card for cheap, or ANY 128-bit low-profile AGP cards, I picked up an XFX Geforce 6200.

Part #: PV-T44A-WANG
nVidia Geforce 6200 256MB DDR2 TV DVI AGP 8X
64-bit Memory Interface
NV44A with 4 Pixel Pipelines, 3 Vertex Processors
Clocked at 350Mhz Core / 530Mhz Memory

Right now I'm getting 7521 3DMarks with 36825 CPU 3DMarks with my P4 2.8Ghz/533 Northwood setup running Win98SE.

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