Anyone remember those VIA chipset that you have to install the infamous 4in1via fix before windows98 crash ? Sometime its just impossible as the computer crash too fast, are there any way to install them offline?
I never had that problem, what OS are you using?
/edit.. yes yes win98, better read first before ask dumb questions 😁 But I never had that issue whit win98. Or did I, can't remember.
Don't forget to install the Via PCI-latenchy-Patch.
http://www.tecchannel.de/a/via-chipsets-slow- … cards,401770,10
Wrong forum. This is for Windows games on modern systems. Old hardware and its drivers/configuration belongs in Marvin.
Moved to Marvin.
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even without the driver the system should be quasi-stable; you are running rescue mode, right?
Thanks for moving my post, sorry I didnt realised there was a forum for that.
Thanks alot mrau and Roma78 for inquiring. The computer will hang while installing and on safe mode too. I think the only place it was stable was on direct to dos7 boot prompt. But what is there to do there ? When I show that problem to my friend who gave me that socket7 VIA board he told me "Yeah I remember there was a trick that you have to install via 4in1 drivers very quickly before the board crash the os". I remember I often had to do that on VIA chipset. Maybe I should downclock that p1-233 p55c cpu? Being on a CompactFlash make it very fast to boot too.
Long story short, a friend gave me a similar socket 7 mobo that have intel chipset and the aopen seal of quality and the problem disappeared. But yet I'm interested in this problem. Nightmares from the past 😀
It seems like a strange problem. I had a Tyan board with the MVP3 chipset which needed the 4-in-1 drivers to get AGP to work, but the system wasn't unstable without them. I don't think I even installed those drivers until I got an AGP card which was a year later.
Do you have an AGP card in it? Did you install the video card driver before the VIA drivers? That might cause a problem if you did.
If it already has an AGP card, try switching to a PCI video card until you get the 4-in-1 drivers installed.
If that's not it, are you sure there isn't something set wrong in the BIOS? Maybe there's something set wrong that the drivers are overriding and "fixing" once they get loaded.
Reset the CMOS and load the defaults to be sure there isn't something corrupted in the settings. Sometimes there can be a glitch in the CMOS that is invisible - it might not appear in the setup screens.
If there's a setting for the AGP speed put it on 1X or whatever is the slowest option. Set conservative RAM timings, make sure there aren't any IRQ conflicts, etc.
If there's a setting for "PCI IRQ Activated By" it should probably be "Level". My MVP3 board was very unstable when I tried setting that to Edge.
On my MVP3 board, the BIOS always booted at AGP 2X so I needed to select the "safe" option when I installed the 4-in-1 drivers so they would force the AGP speed back to 1X.
wrote:It seems like a strange problem. I had a Tyan board with the MVP3 chipset which needed the 4-in-1 drivers to get AGP to work, b […]
It seems like a strange problem. I had a Tyan board with the MVP3 chipset which needed the 4-in-1 drivers to get AGP to work, but the system wasn't unstable without them. I don't think I even installed those drivers until I got an AGP card which was a year later.
Do you have an AGP card in it? Did you install the video card driver before the VIA drivers? That might cause a problem if you did.
If it already has an AGP card, try switching to a PCI video card until you get the 4-in-1 drivers installed.If that's not it, are you sure there isn't something set wrong in the BIOS? Maybe there's something set wrong that the drivers are overriding and "fixing" once they get loaded.
Reset the CMOS and load the defaults to be sure there isn't something corrupted in the settings. Sometimes there can be a glitch in the CMOS that is invisible - it might not appear in the setup screens.
If there's a setting for the AGP speed put it on 1X or whatever is the slowest option. Set conservative RAM timings, make sure there aren't any IRQ conflicts, etc.
If there's a setting for "PCI IRQ Activated By" it should probably be "Level". My MVP3 board was very unstable when I tried setting that to Edge.On my MVP3 board, the BIOS always booted at AGP 2X so I needed to select the "safe" option when I installed the 4-in-1 drivers so they would force the AGP speed back to 1X.
I did the agp/pci switch but it's no use. I've looked at all those hundred of bios setup and possibility and reboot time ... and decided to try another board instead.
Too bad I didnt read your post earlier, the failsafe preset is a clever idea, yet never worked for me as far as I can recall. But thanks for the highlighted bios setup to test. Too bad it's too late, I use an 2 years older board AOpen AP5VM and I'm am a happy camper with it, very stable, unlike the FIC VA-503+.
Damn... this "install 4in1 before it crashes" thing does ring a bell. Don't know if it is at all related to your problem, however I had an unstable Jetway(???) board with a VIA 693 chip in my Celeron days that was like this. There was a setting in the BIOS that was loaded with the defaults, that you had to change to "Disabled" in order for Win98 not to crash before installing the drivers, and after the installation you had to switch it back, but I can't really remember the details 🙁 Neither ME nor 2000/XP were affected by this as far as I remember, just Win98SE.
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wrote:Damn... this "install 4in1 before it crashes" thing does ring a bell. Don't know if it is at all related to your problem, however I had an unstable Jetway(???) board with a VIA 693 chip in my Celeron days that was like this. There was a setting in the BIOS that was loaded with the defaults, that you had to change to "Disabled" in order for Win98 not to crash before installing the drivers, and after the installation you had to switch it back, but I can't really remember the details 🙁 Neither ME nor 2000/XP were affected by this as far as I remember, just Win98SE.
Yeah I was there in my diagnosis when I decided to change for another board. That bios had something like hundred of options, some multi-values and some affecting others. Those old p1 board where alot of work to swap but yet, less work than to try all the bios options. Also VIA chipset are prone to crash unlike the iNTEL one.
