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My Ongoing Retro Rig Project - Xeon Prime

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Reply 101 of 110, by dexter311

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Every time I see that sexy aluminium WinFast card, it makes me want one even more!

Shame about the 2MB Xeon stability. Super impressive 3DMark score though! What a bitchin rig.

Reply 102 of 110, by m1919

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dexter311 wrote:

Every time I see that sexy aluminium WinFast card, it makes me want one even more!

Shame about the 2MB Xeon stability. Super impressive 3DMark score though! What a bitchin rig.

Board is unstable even with the 1MB Xeons right now. Going to play around with swapping memory out and see if that's the problem. Can't even do anything in Windows without the machine locking up after a few minutes, if it even makes it to Windows.

Hopefully it's just some bad memory. Would be a shame if the board was the problem, but seeing as it's probably 18 years old now it may be do for a recap.

I have another XG-DLS board on the way that I'll test with, if it's stable then this board needs some work.

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Reply 104 of 110, by m1919

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tincup wrote:

Whatever it takes XO!

Replacement XG-DLS board appears to be running fine. Hopefully the original board is repairable.

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Reply 105 of 110, by Anonymous Freak

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I know I'm replying to the original post, but there was a special internal BIOS build for the MS440GX that supported Coppermine-based (also called "Cascades") Xeons. I had that board running stably with a pair of 2 MB Pentium III Xeon 700 MHz CPUs for quite a while. (Until well in to 2004 when I finally replaced it with a "modern" computer as my daily-use PC.)

Reply 106 of 110, by m1919

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Anonymous Freak wrote:

I know I'm replying to the original post, but there was a special internal BIOS build for the MS440GX that supported Coppermine-based (also called "Cascades") Xeons. I had that board running stably with a pair of 2 MB Pentium III Xeon 700 MHz CPUs for quite a while. (Until well in to 2004 when I finally replaced it with a "modern" computer as my daily-use PC.)

Yeah I've heard of that bios. It's pretty much a unicorn, searched for a long time for that bios before I found my first XG-DLS board.

On the XG-DLS front, I'm looking at PSU as contributing to current instability issues with the new board. Not sure how accurate the bios voltage monitoring is, but if it is accurate, the 5v rail is well under spec at 4.5v.

I seem to have resolved a bluescreen related to hardware conflict (probably usb keyboard related;) I'm suspecting current behavior of random restart under load and POST memory test looping are PSU related.

Luckily I still have the previous Enermax Noisetaker II 485W I was running in this build previously, which may still be good.

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Reply 107 of 110, by Ponjiayulady

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P3 Xeon 900Mhz (2.8v only) working on XG-DLS v1.03 is for sure,but you should update bios to newest 1013

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boot up successfully

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genuine 900Mhz spec

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operation without any problem

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Reply 108 of 110, by Ponjiayulady

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Unlike most P3 Xeon motherboard using integrated graphics
ASUS XG-DLS has one AGP slot,so P3 Xeon can work with AGP 2x or 4x VGA card
It's also suitable for CAD or gaming ,that is what most P3 Xeon systems can't do

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Reply 109 of 110, by dexvx

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Those Pentium III Xeon's with large cache are rare. I only remember seeing most with only 256K on-die. 900 MHz and 2MB cache is the top end. Wonder what is relative performance compared to 440BX and P3-900/100.

Reply 110 of 110, by luckybob

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depends on the workload. On both the coppermine and xeon, the L2 cache runs at cpu speed. 1:1 A small dos program that fits entirely into L2 is going to have equal performance. But the larger the data, the more L2 matters.

I ran my xg-dls for years as a home router. It had EXCEPTIONAL low latency. I did no real testing, but I contribute it to the huge L2 cache.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.