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AWE32 and NT 4

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First post, by CelGen

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So one of my builds is running Windows NT 4.0 and all the drivers are now loaded except those for the sound card. It's the CT2760 full-length version of the AWE32. I can find drivers for DOS and Windows 9x all I want but I can't seem to find the drivers for 4.0. I did find a driver for NT 3.x and it seems to work on 4 but it's the MIDI-only driver. The wave driver isn't included and the control panels are all arranged with the assumption you're on the 3.x style UI. Where is a good source for the proper 4.0 drivers? I have quickly looked in our driver repository but all I can find are nasty disc images in .bin or .cue format. For starters those are nasty image formats (shame on you for not making iso's) and second I do not have a way right now to burn media or virtually mount images.

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Reply 1 of 9, by shamino

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I don't remember ever testing these. The DISK.ID files say one is revision 1 and the other is revision 10. It's a little unclear what cards the revision 10 disk is supposed to work with, but it's pretty clear the AWE32 is among them.

Reply 2 of 9, by CelGen

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rev10.zip provided me with the control panel and the wave driver however the MIDI driver did not work and the control panel said it couldn't see the EMU 8000 at all.
I had to load the MIDI driver from rev1.zip before I got wave, MIDI and the control panel to all work. Kludgy, but I don't expect to be nessing with it from here on. Thank you.

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Reply 3 of 9, by F2bnp

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I think I have my own set of NT4.0 AWE32 drivers, back from when I was fooling around with a Pentium Pro and Windows NT 4.0.

I'll see if I can get it for you, I don't remember it being that clunky!

Reply 4 of 9, by CelGen

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If you could supply your set, please do.

Upon testing it seems the machine has become a lot more unstable with these kludgy drivers loaded and have repeatedly bluescreened. I've since dumped the audio drivers and it seems to of stabilized so far.

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Reply 5 of 9, by jesolo

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I can also have a look at what NT4.0 drivers came with my AWE64.
However, the revision 10 drivers that shamino attached are also the drivers that are on Creative's website - since I downloaded them for comparison, I've attached them again.
Perhaps try a clean installation of the drivers and remove any old drivers first (refer the "readme.txt" file).

EDIT: Appears that F2bnp and myself responded at the same time. Both of the files that we uploaded are from Creative's website.

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Reply 6 of 9, by F2bnp

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Hopefully, these will help you out. I had no issues with them when I was running NT4.

On first glance, it seems to me that they are the revision10 drivers that shamino uploaded earlier, unfortunately 🙁.

Reply 7 of 9, by Sedrosken

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CelGen wrote:

I have quickly looked in our driver repository but all I can find are nasty disc images in .bin or .cue format. For starters those are nasty image formats (shame on you for not making iso's) and second I do not have a way right now to burn media or virtually mount images.

Point me at those BIN/CUE/ISOs and I will grab the drivers out of them for you.

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Reply 8 of 9, by feipoa

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I have been using an AWE64 Gold in my 486-based NT4 setup for more than 15 years. It has always been stable with this sound card. I am attaching the driver package I am using. I'm not sure which revision they are, but read the readme first. You need to install the Plug-n-Play for Creative, which comes in this package.

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Reply 9 of 9, by CelGen

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feipoa wrote:

I have been using an AWE64 Gold in my 486-based NT4 setup for more than 15 years. It has always been stable with this sound card. I am attaching the driver package I am using. I'm not sure which revision they are, but read the readme first. You need to install the Plug-n-Play for Creative, which comes in this package.

I tried these ones next. Same thing. wave driver loaded but MIDI would not work. Rolling back on the previous MIDI driver worked but after an hour of it playing 3D Pinball demo it bluescreened again.

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I can also have a look at what NT4.0 drivers came with my AWE64. However, the revision 10 drivers that shamino attached are also […]
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I can also have a look at what NT4.0 drivers came with my AWE64.
However, the revision 10 drivers that shamino attached are also the drivers that are on Creative's website - since I downloaded them for comparison, I've attached them again.
Perhaps try a clean installation of the drivers and remove any old drivers first (refer the "readme.txt" file).

EDIT: Appears that F2bnp and myself responded at the same time. Both of the files that we uploaded are from Creative's website.

I'm testing these ones right now. Give me a few more hours to see if this crashes as well.

That I can recall when I built the machine I defaulted all the jumpers on the card and there shouldn't be anything it could conflict with. Windows also has its parameters at default as well.

EDITED: Still no good. All the drivers just bluescreen with the 0x1E KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED error.
Alright, plan B. I'll drop in my last spare AWE64 Gold (CT4390) and see what happens.

EDITED: With a PnP card dropped in NT immediately let me weed out that when I set the machine up I put the modem on IRQ 5 and the AWE64 at least was having none of it. It's again running 3D Pinball in the hopes it does not crash. IF it works I might try falling back to the AWE32 with the newly freed IRQ and seeing what it does. I redid a visual inspection of the card and found no damage.

Edited:
Screw it. The AWE64 seems to be overall a better sound card so I'll leave the AWE32 for a non-NT machine.

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