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First post, by chrisNova777

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im trying to install this on windows 3.11 right now....... having some difficulties..
it says in the manual that it needs to be setup on i/o port 330 and interupt 2/9
which is what i set it to in the control panel setup of windows 3.1

is this the driver? http://www.rolandus.com/support/general_apps_tools/1709
do i need a driver file to make this work? or is there compatibility issues with this card?
i know its a very early card pre-dating the mpu-ipc-t
i think i also remember seeing something on wikipedia about it having compatibility issues
but the wikipedia page said it had issues with AT computers, but the box says its compatible with AT's
does anyone have firsthand experience they can share?

could it be that this specific computer is just too new to be compatible with this card?
maybe its only compatible with "AT" systems without PCI ?
im attempting to install it on a Abit BE6 440BX motherboard that has 2 ISA slots
and the cpu installed right now is a Pentium II 266Mhz / 66Mhz FSB
i think its got 64MB of RAM installed
running off a 2GB Compact Flash attached to the IDE port
a Creative Labs AWE SB32 is installed in the other ISA slot
matrox mga400 dual VGA card (only one monitor connected)
Network anywhere NIC for ethernet
logitech mouseman mouse

i guess i should check my SB32 configuration settings maybe those are conflicting

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Reply 1 of 5, by chrisNova777

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sorry - i realize now that i actually made a mistake confusing the MIF-IPC + the MPU-IPC details/comments
from either the wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPU-401 or the nerdly pleasures blog http://nerdlypleasures.blogspot.ca/2013/06/mp … te-vintage.html

MIF-IPC: For the IBM PC/IBM XT. It turned out not to work reliably with 286 and faster processors. Early versions of the actual PCB had IF-MIDI/IBM as a silk screen.[1]

MPU-IPC: for the IBM PC/IBM XT/IBM AT and compatibles (8 bit ISA). It had a 25-pin female connector for the breakout box, even though only nine pins were used, and only seven were functionally different: both 5V and ground use two pins each.

is it not working because the slots on my Abit BE6 are 16bit ISA?

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Reply 2 of 5, by Jolaes76

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Not an ideal test platform. Too fast and ISA might be out of specs / clock as well.
The big problem is that on many newer, ACPI motherboards IRQ 2/9 is not usable in Windows 9x (I do not know about 3.x) and you must reserve IRQ 9 for ISA/Legacy in your BIOS even if you want to run DOS without problems (conflicting PnP cards.)

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Reply 3 of 5, by yawetaG

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16 bit ISA slots are backwards compatible with 8 bit ISA, since the first "half" of the slot is the same as an 8 bit ISA slot. And yes, I would think you need a driver for the card to work. Windows 3.11 is not plug and play compatible.

It could be that the system is too fast for the card, though...

Reply 4 of 5, by chrisNova777

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UPDATE

i just pulled my AWE32/SB32 and removed its driver and now, magically, ITS WORKING!
so it must have been a conflict
its working in cubase Audio XT with no special driver, i beleive just using built in support in windows 3.11 install package.

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Reply 5 of 5, by PeterLI

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From my recollection the generic MPU-401 Windows 3.1(1) driver should work fine regardless of MPU-IPC(-T)/MIF-IPC(-A)/SCC-1(A/B)/LAPC-I and so on. 330 and 2/9 are hardware addresses. So it is purely a hardware driver.

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