stamasd wrote:

kithylin wrote:

don't have any AS5.

If there's any Radio Shack store still left near your place, they still stock it. Saw a few tubes hanging in my local one just the other day.

All the RS stores in the entire texas region are long gone I think last year. Our local Fry's Electronics sometimes stocks it but sells out often.. other than that I haven't found anyone. I should really hit up some of the mom`n`pop computer repair stores around town.

EDIT: Well now this thing runs away and shuts off at stock speeds with new TIM guess I burned out a 939 chip... oh well. I sort of "went nuts on purpose" with this one because I'm expecting a FX-60 from a friend pretty soon and I'll go a lot more gentle and careful with that one. This one I have now as sort of a "throw away for fun" chip to see what 939 can really do.

kithylin wrote:

stamasd wrote:

kithylin wrote:

don't have any AS5.

If there's any Radio Shack store still left near your place, they still stock it. Saw a few tubes hanging in my local one just the other day.

All the RS stores in the entire texas region are long gone I think last year. Our local Fry's Electronics sometimes stocks it but sells out often.. other than that I haven't found anyone. I should really hit up some of the mom`n`pop computer repair stores around town.

EDIT: Well now this thing runs away and shuts off at stock speeds with new TIM guess I burned out a 939 chip... oh well. I sort of "went nuts on purpose" with this one because I'm expecting a FX-60 from a friend pretty soon and I'll go a lot more gentle and careful with that one. This one I have now as sort of a "throw away for fun" chip to see what 939 can really do.

Shoot I'm your neighbor I'm off meadowbrook wanna borrow some as5 🤣

kithylin wrote:

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Agreed, it does cost more. But isn't it cool that you can go into a computer shop today, buy an SLI AMD motherboard, put in your two 7800 GTX cards or whatever you want to use, install XP and off you go? This is one of the things that makes AMD so cool for retro gaming 😀

Prices in Australia can be quite odd. There are AM2 SLI boards that sell for more than 990FX boards. Crazy...

There's 790FX (CrossFireX) and 780a SLI (nvidia) too.

Avoid 680i/780i motherboards if you can. There OK for light usage and testing but they like to die quickly if you ask them for moderate or worse daily use.

I've had nothing but great luck with socket 939 boards. I have two PCIe boards and one AGP, all overclocked. They're absolutely great XP gaming machines.

I used this one as my main computer from 2006-2013. It's been overclocked to 3GHz since the day I built it. When I feel like smashing benchmark records I give it a bit of extra voltage and bump it up to 3.13GHz. 😊
The A8N32-SLI Deluxe has been completely trouble free.

3DMark01 (at 3.13GHz, with a single GTX 560)

3DMark03 (at 3.00GHz, with SLI 8800GTS 640MB)

I own four S939 (all SLI capable),
A8N32 Deluxe (works),
A8N32 Deluxe (dead, I killed it by shorting front panel 🙁),
A8N-SLI Deluxe (from trash PC my friend found - dead "no POST"),
LP UT NF4 Ultra-D (pencil moded for "SLI" support 😀).

And one AM2 MB (also SLI capable)
My first M2N32 Dlx was dead on arrival 😒
But second one (M2N32 Deluxe), works fine.

I like S939 because it can support ECC memory, CPU's are SSE2 capable and some of them are Dual-Cores 😁

kithylin wrote:

stamasd wrote:

kithylin wrote:

don't have any AS5.

If there's any Radio Shack store still left near your place, they still stock it. Saw a few tubes hanging in my local one just the other day.

All the RS stores in the entire texas region are long gone I think last year. Our local Fry's Electronics sometimes stocks it but sells out often.. other than that I haven't found anyone. I should really hit up some of the mom`n`pop computer repair stores around town.

Another possible source is Microcenter. They have it regularly as well. I don't go there often because the only one in this area is a 40min drive away, but on the few occasions I've been there I noticed they had it.

His mainboard up and running again, tests and benchmarks, a failed experience, microstuttering, AS5...
I just can't keep pace. 😊

The AS5 is immortal. And I often use it and the tube never ends.

kithylin wrote:

"It's all subjective about this "stutter" stuff. Some people can see it, some people can't see it. But everyone can measure it in apps designed to measure it. So it's there, so what? If we can't see it why do we care? Why even bother mentioning it? To me all the games looked smooth and fine and normal."

I always thought microstuttering only applied to SLI (< 30 FPS). I thought wrong !
In this range, if you can't perceive stuttering, your vision is...so-so. 😈

kithylin wrote:

I'm expecting a FX-60 from a friend pretty soon and I'll go a lot more gentle and careful with that one. This one I have now as sort of a "throw away for fun" chip to see what 939 can really do.

FX-60 ? Never heard about it. Must be the best for 939 (From AMD, I only know Atlhon XP and Atlhon 64).
Officialy, you people know what is the most powerful processor for an ASUS A8N-SLI SE ?
After reading the posts all the way, doing similar taks over and over, I got lazy. Sorry!
And a lot of people here own an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium (maybe equal is this matter).

I am glad your main board is alive. You scared me pretty good.

Frasco wrote:

FX-60 ? Never heard about it. Must be the best for 939 (From AMD, I only know Atlhon XP and Atlhon 64).
Officialy, you people know what is the most powerful processor for an ASUS A8N-SLI SE ?

FX-60 is the latest and greatest in s939 desktop CPUs. There is an Opteron from the server line for that socket which equals or slightly outperforms the FX-60 IIRC but can't remember the part name.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/1920

(edit) the Opteron 185 is equal to FX-60, Opteron 190 a bit faster (2.8GHz vs. 2.6GHz) http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Dual-Cor … A190DAA6CD.html

FAQ
Q: I have an AMD Opteron 190 microprocessor. Is it possible to upgrade it?
A: No. This is the fastest CPU for Socket 939.

For single core, highest performance is from the Opteron 156. For dual core, the S939 line tops out on the Opteron 190.

Wasn't the Operton the server CPU, and you could use them in multi socket boards? And the FX was the gaming / enthusiast processor?

Socket 939 Opteron is exactly the same as A64 (X2). Socket 940 Opteron is also using the same silicon... but can be used in 2P/4P/8P boards (Opteron 2xx or 8xx) and requires ECC Reg. DDR. Performance wise it is maybe 1-2% slower than 939 because of the registered DDR.

Also don't forget, the FX-60 has unlocked core multiplier for overclocking. The opteron, does not.

I split the microstutter discussion off to a new thread.

swaaye wrote:

I split the microstutter discussion off to a new thread.

Thanks, the mods are great around here.

More on topic: For socket 939 all my usage to date has been these low-multiplier low-cache cheap chips even back when it was new years ago I only got I think the 2ghz or 2.4 ghz chips, and the 2x512KB ones. Even with overclocking I'd have to push them like +60% just to get like 2.7 ghz out of em, and it stressed the everliving hell out the poor chips and wasn't good for em. It would be really nice to get a high-multi or unlocked-multi full-cached 2MB dual core for 939 where hitting 3.4 - 3.5 ghz is only like +40% and not stressing it.

Also:

Frasco wrote:

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His mainboard up and running again, tests and benchmarks, a failed experience, microstuttering, AS5...
I just can't keep pace. 😊

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I am glad your main board is alive. You scared me pretty good.

Yes, turned out it's just some "Dead bug crud" causing minor corrosion in one of the atx 24-pin holes/sockets in the motherboard connector. It was causing intermittent disconnections to the green "ATX POWER ON" lead to the power supply. Once I saw the problem and cleaned it out this board runs like a champ again and I used it for hours and hours the other day. Until I killed the older slow chip. But the board's perfectly fine and still works great.

I even had a set of 2x2GB + 2x1GB (6GB total) ECC-Registered DDR in it and it worked great with 6GB dual channel and everything.

Just for fun and giggles some day down the road I might try the FX-60 @ 3.5 ghz and see what it would do with like my big R9 290X 8GB card in there and some modern games if I could load it up with like 16GB ram.

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Wasn't the Operton the server CPU, and you could use them in multi socket boards? And the FX was the gaming / enthusiast processor?

Opteron 1XX chips were intended for use in single socket workstations. The 2XX and 8XX chips were intended for dual and multi socket applications respectively.

kithylin wrote:

Also don't forget, the FX-60 has unlocked core multiplier for overclocking. The opteron, does not.

Not such a big deal. It's just a matter of cranking the base clock.

swaaye wrote:

I split the microstutter discussion off to a new thread.

I love how discussions branch off on these retro forums - we're giving the mods extra work 😀

On topic - has anyone had any luck OCing a single core 939 CPU to 3GHz? The most I could do is ~2.9Ghz on my 3800+ (single core). It gets silly hot if I go over that.

Going over 3,0GHz on ECC capable MB isn't that easy.
Here's my try with FX-60 : LINK 😀

I got my FX-55 (130nm) up to 2,91 GHz : LINK

I own FX-57 and I OC'ed it to 3GHz+ but only proof is cache/memory test :

^Scratch that, I found CPU-z Validation : LINK 😁

When I have a moment, I'll try to play around with it some more 😉

kanecvr wrote:

On topic - has anyone had any luck OCing a single core 939 CPU to 3GHz? The most I could do is ~2.9Ghz on my 3800+ (single core). It gets silly hot if I go over that.

Yeah, with some luck it can be done hwbot.org/submission/2621656_havli_cine ... .72_points

Or well, you know, just..... start out at 3ghz stock without overclocking if you can find one of these bad boys for sale.

www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD-Opteron%2 ... NBOX).html

The only one for sale anywhere I've found is over here: http://www.cpumedics.com/osa156daa5bn.html?cm … CFW2CMgodwTgATg

I haven't managed up the courage to try and buy one. No one ever answers any time of the day or day of the week when I try and call their phone number. And no one there answers emails.. so dunno what it is. Some random guy with a yahoo store maybe.

Maybe just no support but they actually ship if you place an order, I don't know.

The closest thing I've found is this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271408152727?_trksid= … K%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

SUN motherboard with 2.8 ghz single core socket 939 opteron in it for sale.

The processors are -NOT- system dependant, you could easily take it out and put it in say like my Asus A8n32-SLI-Deluxe system and easily overclock it +200 mhz to 3ghz.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

kithylin wrote:

PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Agreed, it does cost more. But isn't it cool that you can go into a computer shop today, buy an SLI AMD motherboard, put in your two 7800 GTX cards or whatever you want to use, install XP and off you go? This is one of the things that makes AMD so cool for retro gaming 😀

Prices in Australia can be quite odd. There are AM2 SLI boards that sell for more than 990FX boards. Crazy...

There's 790FX (CrossFireX) and 780a SLI (nvidia) too.

Avoid 680i/780i motherboards if you can. There OK for light usage and testing but they like to die quickly if you ask them for moderate or worse daily use.

680i/780i are fine provided they get attention early enough and are maintained, the stock cooling was the ruin of these boards. Had a XFX 780i that had daily use right up till it got destroyed by arson (sucks to know people). Q8200 at 3.2ghz on less than stock volts, very large copper cooler on the NB (good old diy hack job with a 478 cooler) and chopped up a slot 1 cooler for the vrms. The main problem I had with the build was the pci-e latency and the LLC vcore drooping. 780i is a real power hog and dumped a lot of heat.