Try quickly installing a different version of Windows, sometimes drivers and cards just don't wanna work. This is pretty strange for an AGP system though.

I figured out this problem too. I'm getting hammered on this upgrade. It is described here. http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

"One practical matter which must be considered is the fact that some of the original AGP 1.0 motherboards do not provide enough power to operate some newer AGP video cards reliably. For example, some of the original motherboards using the first chipsets which supported AGP (like the Intel 440LX and 440BX) can become unstable if you install video cards which draw lots of power through the AGP slot. The motherboards can't always supply the necessary current for the newer video cards. So if you're adding a video card to an AGP 1.0 motherboard then it's a good idea to install a video card which doesn't consume very much power.

You can also occasionally get memory resource conflicts by installing a new AGP video card into an old AGP 1.0 motherboard. The video card will work properly until you install the display driver. Once you try to install the driver, a memory conflict shows up. The range of conflicting addresses varies from case to case. This problem is very unusual and when it happens it is rarely possible to fix it. I'm not sure exactly what causes the problem but apparently the motherboard and the video card are incompatible in some way which prevents Windows from properly assigning memory addresses to the video card. In the cases I've seen, there doesn't seem to be any way to predict from the video card chipset and motherboard chipset whether there will be a problem. Sometimes a particular video card chipset and motherboard chipset get along well and other times they don't. I'd guess that it's some kind of incompatibility caused by an outdated motherboard BIOS and possibly the video card BIOS. The one thing you can try is to flash your motherboard with the most recent BIOS. But since it's an old motherboard, the manufacturer will most likely not have anything but old BIOSes available. If you're running Windows 95, 98, or ME, it may be possible to manually assign addresses and get it to work but I've seen people try this and the process is about as enjoyable as a root canal and usually fails to fully solve the problem anyway.

Did you really have to mention root canals... I'm heading towards one of those later today, and as you can imagine I'm thrilled about it. 🙁

shaq wrote:

I upgraded my Rage 3D PRO AGP 2X to an ATI XPERT 128 AGP and it is causing freezing in windows and on loading windows I get a protection error. I looked into the resources and I had at least 4 conflicts. Even when I installed a generic VGA driver it crashed. So I put my 3D Rage Pro back in and everything seems fine. I looked at resource conflicts again and there are still a couple conflicts with the AGP controller, but everything seems fine as it was before. The conflict may have been there the whole time. Can anything be done about this? I tried manually configuring in windows and it still hanged even though I picked addresses that weren't being used. I've never really had to do this before so I am lost and wondering if anyone knows what can be done about it. My BIOS lets me reserve IRQ'S and memory addresses and I can turn PnP off, but that is about it.

Most people who build systems with motherboards of that age are well aware of this. Personally I've never encountered that particular error, as I did my best to avoid this problem from occurring by careful preselection of parts (like for instance using a very low power AGP card in combination with Voodoo 2).

stamasd wrote:

Did you really have to mention root canals... I'm heading towards one of those later today, and as you can imagine I'm thrilled about it. 🙁

I wouldn't get a root canal. Read up on the potential side effects if it's not too late.

Tetrium wrote:

shaq wrote:

I upgraded my Rage 3D PRO AGP 2X to an ATI XPERT 128 AGP and it is causing freezing in windows and on loading windows I get a protection error. I looked into the resources and I had at least 4 conflicts. Even when I installed a generic VGA driver it crashed. So I put my 3D Rage Pro back in and everything seems fine. I looked at resource conflicts again and there are still a couple conflicts with the AGP controller, but everything seems fine as it was before. The conflict may have been there the whole time. Can anything be done about this? I tried manually configuring in windows and it still hanged even though I picked addresses that weren't being used. I've never really had to do this before so I am lost and wondering if anyone knows what can be done about it. My BIOS lets me reserve IRQ'S and memory addresses and I can turn PnP off, but that is about it.

Most people who build systems with motherboards of that age are well aware of this. Personally I've never encountered that particular error, as I did my best to avoid this problem from occurring by careful preselection of parts (like for instance using a very low power AGP card in combination with Voodoo 2).

Is it possible to use a newer 2x/4x card that has a molex connector? It could potentially draw enough power through the molex and not cause problems. The BIOS problem might still be present but the power issue might not occur. But yes I am putting Voodoo 2 SLI in, but was hoping for a decent 32 bit color AGP card. I did find the latest BIOS on Intel's site but none of the updates mention anything on video card incompatibilities. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/107 … -?product=50526 Open with 7 zip to look at readme.

I have a P05 BIOS(the 2nd earliest) so I may try the update and see if it helps as well.

shaq wrote:

stamasd wrote:

Did you really have to mention root canals... I'm heading towards one of those later today, and as you can imagine I'm thrilled about it. 🙁

I wouldn't get a root canal. Read up on the potential side effects if it's not too late.

🤣 too late. This would be my 4th in 10 years.

shaq wrote:

Tetrium wrote:

Most people who build systems with motherboards of that age are well aware of this. Personally I've never encountered that particular error, as I did my best to avoid this problem from occurring by careful preselection of parts (like for instance using a very low power AGP card in combination with Voodoo 2).

Is it possible to use a newer 2x/4x card that has a molex connector? It could potentially draw enough power through the molex and not cause problems. The BIOS problem might still be present but the power issue might not occur. But yes I am putting Voodoo 2 SLI in, but was hoping for a decent 32 bit color AGP card. I did find the latest BIOS on Intel's site but none of the updates mention anything on video card incompatibilities. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/107 … -?product=50526 Open with 7 zip to look at readme.

I have a P05 BIOS(the 2nd earliest) so I may try the update and see if it helps as well.

What's the model number of your motherboard?
Pics in addition might also be helpful.

Your best bet is to either find an AGP graphics card that draws very little power (I've personally used one of these in one of my builds for 2D only, 3D being handled by a Voodoo 2) or to use a PCI graphics card instead (like some kind of Geforce MX or better), thereby avoiding the AGP issues completely.

Do you really want 32-bit color depth?

The other (obvious) solution is to simply use a PCI graphics card .

Another easy solution is to just use a bit more modern motherboard that has these issues fixed, or perhaps even try and fix it yourself (don't ask me how, I'm not even sure if this is even possible or doable).

In my case, I ended up using a Vanta as it was the only very low power AGP card I had available at the time (doesn't even have a heatsink) and I didn't need it to perform fantastic anyway, only to be able to display 16-bit desktop graphics as all the 3D was done by the Voodoo 2.
I wasn't even sure this particular board had issues with its AGP slot, but I simply couldn't be bothered to try and I just wanted the system to remain stable.

Sometimes one has to compromise.

It's a SE440BX. I had a FX 5200 AGP 2X/4X card that I forgot about and it seems to be running fine. It has a heat sink and a fan on it. According to this it uses 27 watts at 3D load http://forums.atomicmpc.com.au/index.php/topi … equirements-v2/
It would be nice to find what the upper limit could be. A 6600GT 2X/4X would be the fastest card that could be used on this board.