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Reply 1 of 32, by PhilsComputerLab

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Man I share your pain.

This is the reason I don't like the Live! and hardly ever use it. I have that same exact card and in two recent projects it totally failed and I went with other cards 😀

I do know though that a lot of people like the Live and it works great for them, but I prefer a simple installer that just works.

Best is to buy these cards when they come with a CD, then all should be good. Or just use other cards, and there are lots of options.

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Reply 2 of 32, by jade_angel

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I have never had a Soundblaster Live cause me anything but pain, grief, aggravation and gas. Audigy2, no problem, but anything SB Live? Pure pain. PCI512, same story.

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Reply 3 of 32, by kithylin

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Reply 4 of 32, by Aideka

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ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/Others/414/SBL51_W9xME.exe Drivers for SB Live 5.1 cards for W9x series of OS. Creative does in fact host these standalone drivers on their page still, but it takes a while to find them.

EDIT: Tried to make the link clickable via the URL tags, but it didn't seem to work for some reason.

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Reply 5 of 32, by keropi

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weird, I have used various Live! cards on 440BX/845 mobos and never had an issue...
I seem to remember (but don't quote me on that) that they tend to hog/stress the PCI bus so back then mobo manufacturers actually made their hardware compatible to the Live! cards - rather than the normal opposite. Bad design? PCI issues ? maybe both.
What chipset does your motherboard have kithylin ?

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Reply 6 of 32, by kithylin

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Reply 7 of 32, by Jorpho

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There have been threads about the CT4870 before. It's an OEM model, and will probably not make your life easier.

Reply 8 of 32, by Aideka

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I would almost bet the driver is working on non 5.1 cards too. Not actually sure, but the XP 5.1 drivers work in non 5.1 cards.

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Reply 9 of 32, by Aideka

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Also, sorry for double posting, but I can say for sure, that the model SB0100 card works on i945p and 945g chipsets, since I have used that card for years on a Pentium4 and Core2Duo systems based on those chipsets.

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Reply 10 of 32, by kithylin

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Reply 11 of 32, by kithylin

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Reply 12 of 32, by gdjacobs

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Your SB0100 card might require an OEM driver.

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Reply 13 of 32, by kithylin

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gdjacobs wrote:

Your SB0100 card might require an OEM driver.

Maybe... I dunno. I have one card that works now, so I guess I'll consider this one resolved. I could post my image to dropbox that works with the 4870 if anyone wants.. compare it to some of those on vogons, maybe it's already posted.

On to a new thread to figure out OpenGL Issues. So thank you for your input everyone.. kinda solved it on my own though.

Reply 14 of 32, by Phreeze

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i often use the lvie cards and never had any problem ?
download the drivers from the creative site (look under legacy etc.)

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Reply 15 of 32, by kithylin

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Phreeze wrote:

i often use the lvie cards and never had any problem ?
download the drivers from the creative site (look under legacy etc.)

Yes.. but have you actually used them in Windows 98 SE, or in Windows ME before? That is where all the problems and grief happens. They're fine and stable in XP And newer.

Reply 16 of 32, by elianda

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Since the 64 bit disaster where they offered unstable drivers for several years I always go with the kx drivers for the Live! series. These work flawless even with Win10 x64.
https://github.com/kxproject/kX-Audio-driver-binaries

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Reply 17 of 32, by PhilsComputerLab

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Are they WDM drivers and do they work under Windows 98 with EAX and all of that?

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Reply 18 of 32, by elianda

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Yes they are WDM, see also here: http://kxproject.com/ (and the FAQ there)
EAX support is provided via DSP plugins. However I have never tested this in detail.

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Reply 19 of 32, by kithylin

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