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Reply 5860 of 29603, by Cyrix200+

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Took a little side-step from my dual PIII build to test my 'new' Asus P2B-LS with Powerleap slotket and a Tualatin Celeron 1400MHz. POST's and runs Memcheck like a charm 😀

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Reply 5861 of 29603, by brostenen

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But you lose it when you work on other era projects.

Amen to that... 😀 I perfectly know what you mean.

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Reply 5862 of 29603, by brostenen

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As for me... I am in the process of thinning out my collection. (not found much though)
There are stuff wich I do not use at all, and I really want to see some of it go to people that are going to use it.
(Plus it takes up space, wich I could really need for other parts that I will be using)

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Reply 5863 of 29603, by PhilsComputerLab

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brostenen wrote:
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But you lose it when you work on other era projects.

Amen to that... 😀 I perfectly know what you mean.

Yea always feels like starting from zero. But then you get into it quite quickly.

Was easier than expected 😀

The chip is an AM270010-150. But the board supports flash, just needed one jumper moved. Programmed it and it worked right away 😀

AFAIK this isn't the latest BIOS, but a readme file said it's the most stable. I'm sure it will do for what I use this board for.

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Reply 5864 of 29603, by Imperious

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You could give the one I hacked up a go, everything worked ok. suits 2.1 or 2.11 motherboards, maybe others.

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Reply 5865 of 29603, by PhilsComputerLab

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Sweet, will try it out!

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Reply 5866 of 29603, by oeuvre

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Pulled a PSU from a dead Dell Dimension 2400. The motherboard is shot but the power supply seems to work fine. I'm gonna use it for powering up 3.5" drives. Handy for copying stuff onto older IDE drives via USB. (IDE to USB adapters are a huge time saver).

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Reply 5867 of 29603, by krivulak

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I am still trying to figure out how to attach this cooler to CPU. The CPU is one of those weird 486 to 386 board through 387 CoCPU thingy thing and it of course does not have any socket way to hold a cooler. And this thing runs INSANELY hot. I touched it and it burned my fingers.
The cooler is by the way ripped from chipset from scrapped IBM NetVista, but it has exactly perfect dimensions, so now I am trying to figure out how to hold it in place.
I know there is thermal cement which "glues" the cooler directly to the chip, but I don't like that, the chip is spotless and I don't want to ruin the printing on it. I just want to increase cooling surface so it is not this crazy hot...
I mean, this computer ran good 15 years without the cooler no problem, but you know... 😁

Reply 5868 of 29603, by xplus93

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I am still trying to figure out how to attach this cooler to CPU. The CPU is one of those weird 486 to 386 board through 387 CoCPU thingy thing and it of course does not have any socket way to hold a cooler. And this thing runs INSANELY hot. I touched it and it burned my fingers.
The cooler is by the way ripped from chipset from scrapped IBM NetVista, but it has exactly perfect dimensions, so now I am trying to figure out how to hold it in place.
I know there is thermal cement which "glues" the cooler directly to the chip, but I don't like that, the chip is spotless and I don't want to ruin the printing on it. I just want to increase cooling surface so it is not this crazy hot...
I mean, this computer ran good 15 years without the cooler no problem, but you know... 😁

Usually there is a clip with arms that grab onto the side of the chip.

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Reply 5869 of 29603, by konc

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krivulak wrote:

I know there is thermal cement which "glues" the cooler directly to the chip, but I don't like that, the chip is spotless and I don't want to ruin the printing on it.

Just giving an alternative, you don't need to use "cement" that can only be removed with an axe. There are milder thermal conductive adhesives (not the glue type that become solid, more like a double sided tape).

Reply 5870 of 29603, by krivulak

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konc wrote:
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I know there is thermal cement which "glues" the cooler directly to the chip, but I don't like that, the chip is spotless and I don't want to ruin the printing on it.

Just giving an alternative, you don't need to use "cement" that can only be removed with an axe. There are milder thermal conductive adhesives (not the glue type that become solid, more like a double sided tape).

Yeah, but I am trying to avoid thermal compounds because I don't want to destroy the printing on the chip. Maybe 3D printer is the way to go..?

Reply 5871 of 29603, by ODwilly

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Airflow might be a good option. If your case offers an exhaust opening nearby, add a fan to it to increase it. If not, perhaps add one. Heck, even with crappy case airflow maybe just rig up something to blow cool air over the CPU.

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Reply 5872 of 29603, by clueless1

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ODwilly wrote:

Airflow might be a good option. If your case offers an exhaust opening nearby, add a fan to it to increase it. If not, perhaps add one. Heck, even with crappy case airflow maybe just rig up something to blow cool air over the CPU.

I agree. Didn't they used to print on the cpu itself back then whether it needed a heatsink or not? I don't see that on your cpu, so I'm guessing passive air cooling is all it needs.

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Reply 5873 of 29603, by appiah4

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I’m feeling rather smug today because I resolved some very weird hardware shenanigans last night. I’m working on my Slot 1 system of late, and for whatever reason the floppy drive access was erratic as hell. It would always squeak/beep during first boot, and during use – and by squeak/beep I mean making an odd sequaky beep noise that I tought was from the PC speaker at first. It would also almost always lock up Windows when accessing the floppy but work fine in MS-DOS.

So I first disconnected the PC speaker and the noise persisted. I then removed the floppy drive and the noises stopped. I then reconnected the drive using a different floppy cable but lockup/noises continued. I then replaced the drive and the cable, but the noise and lockups continued. At this point I was fairly sure it was a motherboard issue so I pulled the motherboard out and visually inspected every single cap and connector to make sure nothing was awry – everything was solid, and the system is rock stable otherwise.

At this point I decided to boot an MSDOS floppy to make sure that it worked fine in MSDOS, and yes, it did, it worked reliably fine – so fine that I actually managed to flash a VGA card and the motherboard’s BIOS with the floppy (living dangerously, I know) so now I resolved that it must be a Windows issue. A couple attempts at removing and reinstalling the floppy controller driver did nothing, so I tried disabling the PnP BIOS which didn’t help with jack either.

At this point I was really frustrated and took off the case cover and gave the floppy disk area a visual inspection.. Maybe the case or the 3.5” caddy was squeaking due to vibration? Maybe, but why would it lock up? Could the floppy’s vibration be affecting the hard drive and making the hard drive head do stupid shit? I removed the floppy from the case and laid it on the ground, fired up the computer..

Now, here’s when things got weird. Upon accessing the floppy in Windows, I got the familiar squeak/beeps and the system locked up – but the beeps were coming from the case, not the floppy! It was the Hard drive that was beeping all along! The floppy was fed power from the floppy connector branching directly from the HDD molex. Whenever I accessed the floppy and the system was also using the hard drive, it would lock up because the hard drive would fuck up apparently because there isn’t enough juice on the rail! So I connected the Hard Drive to the first molex on the rail rather than the last, then the CD-Rom to the second, the third was left empty and the floppy connector branching from the third final molex was connected to the floppy..

I rebooted.. And everything worked!

This is one of the weirdest issues I’ve troubleshooted in a PC. Sometimes working with these things is like starring in an episode of House M.D.

Reply 5874 of 29603, by PTherapist

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Put a new PRAM battery into my Power Macintosh G3 Beige Desktop and upgraded the RAM from 128MB to 448MB.

Was also having occasional random freezes when playing games in Mac OS 9, so I undid my old overclock to 333 and put the CPU back at 300MHz. Will need to test further if the overclock was the cause.

Still can't manage to get the videos playing properly on Tomb Raider III, they stutter frequently on playback and then hard freeze the system. That game always was buggy on Mac though, so it's probably just the game to blame, especially since Tomb Raider 4 plays perfectly.

Reply 5875 of 29603, by oeuvre

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This... is my main desktop (Skylake rig). Put it in an older Dell chassis. More details and pictures here http://imgur.com/a/W5Xnw

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Reply 5876 of 29603, by Skyscraper

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I messed with an Asus P5K Deluxe P35 motherboard I got in an "untested lot".

I was gooing to use it for my "low power" Win XP gaming and Internet system for the summer as using my main rig makes the air con work overtime.

The issue was that the motherboard did not work... Most hardware in the lot were "working when replaced with newer hardware" but somehow almost all of it seems to have died in the sellers storage... "I found these in a dumpster but could not get them working" would probably been closer to the truth...

The issues with the Asus P5K Deluxe were many, among other things the chipset heat pipe cooling made zero contact with the North Bridge and removing it was a pain as someone had glued it to the South Bridge... Any how I got it fixed and actually got the board working but the PCI-E 16x slot driven by the NB is dead while the 16x@4x slot driven by the SB works. 4x first gen PCI-E is not good enough so I had to use another motherboard for my "summer system". The upside is that the system now actually is a "Conroe lauch" period correct system with an E6700, a motherboard using the P965 chipset and a Geforce 7900 GTX.

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Reply 5877 of 29603, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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I messed with an Asus P5K Deluxe P35 motherboard I got in an "untested lot". […]
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I messed with an Asus P5K Deluxe P35 motherboard I got in an "untested lot".

I was gooing to use it for my "low power" Win XP gaming and Internet system for the summer as using my main rig makes the air con work overtime.

The issue was that the motherboard did not work... Most hardware in the lot were "working when replaced with newer hardware" but somehow almost all of it seems to have died in the sellers storage... "I found these in a dumpster but could not get them working" would probably been closer to the truth...

The issues with the Asus P5K Deluxe were many, among other things the chipset heat pipe cooling made zero contact with the North Bridge and removing it was a pain as someone had glued it to the South Bridge... Any how I got it fixed and actually got the board working but the PCI-E 16x slot driven by the NB is dead while the 16x@4x slot driven by the SB works. 4x first gen PCI-E is not good enough so I had to use another motherboard for my "summer system". The upside is that the system now actually is a "Conroe lauch" period correct system with an E6700, a motherboard using the P965 chipset and a Geforce 7900 GTX.

How much dead stuff did you get? It leave a very nasty review if i were you.

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Reply 5878 of 29603, by Skyscraper

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
Skyscraper wrote:
I messed with an Asus P5K Deluxe P35 motherboard I got in an "untested lot". […]
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I messed with an Asus P5K Deluxe P35 motherboard I got in an "untested lot".

I was gooing to use it for my "low power" Win XP gaming and Internet system for the summer as using my main rig makes the air con work overtime.

The issue was that the motherboard did not work... Most hardware in the lot were "working when replaced with newer hardware" but somehow almost all of it seems to have died in the sellers storage... "I found these in a dumpster but could not get them working" would probably been closer to the truth...

The issues with the Asus P5K Deluxe were many, among other things the chipset heat pipe cooling made zero contact with the North Bridge and removing it was a pain as someone had glued it to the South Bridge... Any how I got it fixed and actually got the board working but the PCI-E 16x slot driven by the NB is dead while the 16x@4x slot driven by the SB works. 4x first gen PCI-E is not good enough so I had to use another motherboard for my "summer system". The upside is that the system now actually is a "Conroe lauch" period correct system with an E6700, a motherboard using the P965 chipset and a Geforce 7900 GTX.

How much dead stuff did you get? It leave a very nasty review if i were you.

Nah it was enough with broken and half broken crap to cover the 70 euro shipped I paid. On the Swedish Ebay clone a bad review always get a bad review in return.

I kind of always assume these kind of lots are dumpster finds even when the sellers state otherwise.

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Reply 5879 of 29603, by brostenen

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Today I recieved my Amiga600 and it is working great. So I have been playing games on it for some 8 hours.
I was really surprised by the stuff that came with it. 4 full boxes of disks, complete set of manuals, lots of
cheat codes, a complete official cheat-code book from 1992, 2 joysticks, rgb to scart cable. 😜

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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