Maybe Reality_GMGS_falcomod.sf2 could be included in the 28-64MB group:
http://falcosoft.hu/softwares.html#midiplayer

And of course Grabbag theme from Duke Nukem 3D (and maybe some Warcraft 2 midis) should be among the test songs.

appiah4 wrote:

Soundfonts I looked for but failed to find or were commercial:

Musyng GM/GS

I did a quick google search and found several download links here: http://www.synthfont.com/soundfonts.html

I tried the OneDrive link and it worked from me.

BTW, LauGM is 124 MB when the .sfArk is unpacked.

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appiah4 wrote:

Soundfonts I looked for but failed to find or were commercial:

Musyng GM/GS

I did a quick google search and found several download links here: http://www.synthfont.com/soundfonts.html

I tried the OneDrive link and it worked from me.

BTW, LauGM is 124 MB when the .sfArk is unpacked.

Thanks for the link, I grabbed SONIVOX 250 and Airfont 380 while at it. I will update the OP with LauGM fixes.

appiah4 wrote:

Creative 28MB

What soundfont is that? Could anyone please point me to some recordings? I might have found a reason to get 32MB for my AWE32 after all 😀

CGM3.0

http://www.bismutnetwork.com/04CrisisGeneralM … oundfont3.0.php

Warning, that sound font will bring your systems to its knees.
It can be used with a Sound blaster Audigy in vista/7 or in software, its so big you can't use it on xp/2k/9x, at 1.57gb is size Id say its probably too big for most people to use. But it sounds amazing.

There is also CGM1.8, its much smaller but sucks.

The Chaos 12MB soundfont used to be my favorite back in the day.

I think I have a newer, larger Chaos soundfont as well.

Let me know if you want me to upload them for testing.

I probably have some others that you don't have listed as well. Been collecting way too much lately to keep track of it all.

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appiah4 wrote:

Creative 28MB

What soundfont is that? Could anyone please point me to some recordings? I might have found a reason to get 32MB for my AWE32 after all 😀

I believe it ships with Audigy cards, I can share it with you if you want; PM me. GeneralUser GM 1.35 is also <28MB and fits on an AWE32 with 32MB RAM, and is A LOT better, by the way.

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CGM3.0

http://www.bismutnetwork.com/04CrisisGeneralM … oundfont3.0.php

Warning, that sound font will bring your systems to its knees.
It can be used with a Sound blaster Audigy in vista/7 or in software, its so big you can't use it on xp/2k/9x, at 1.57gb is size Id say its probably too big for most people to use. But it sounds amazing.

There is also CGM1.8, its much smaller but sucks.

This appears to be mostly for composing, it's basically impractical for gaming and out of my scope, but it looks interesting as hell for sure, I'll give it a look.

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The Chaos 12MB soundfont used to be my favorite back in the day.

I think I have a newer, larger Chaos soundfont as well.

Let me know if you want me to upload them for testing.

I probably have some others that you don't have listed as well. Been collecting way too much lately to keep track of it all.

I'd be more than happy to add the ones you want to see in the comparison to the list, point me to a download location, or ask for an upload location, and you'll be served 😀

I had no problem using CGM3.0 for gaming with an Audigy 4, sounds a lot better then anything else I ever found. Its only problem is its size, it takes forever to load up such a log sound font with the creative labs sound font tool. don't bother trying to loud it up with a sound blaster if you are not running vista or 7, XP and back can't put that much data in ram as one file.

Take a look at the bottom of the page, a lot of game music recordings on uploaded there.

Here is a recording of CGM3.0 on my Audigy playing passport.
download/file.php?id=30269

EDIT: its truly amazing
www.bismutnetwork.com/01Download/Music/ ... spair).mp3

Yes that's CGM3 playing a midi from doom

ImperialMarch
www.bismutnetwork.com/01Download/Music/ ... March).mp3

Here is a link to my google drive which has the Chaos 8MB and Chaos 12MB sound fonts as well as an SC-55 soundfont which I am guessing is one of the ones you already have.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx6yUkEXCMV … Mk5rVVVnSnhoSUk

Here is a link to a page that has some more soundfonts available for download. I have not tried any of them.

http://www.personalcopy.com/sfarkfonts1.htm

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Here is a link to my google drive which has the Chaos 8MB and Chaos 12MB sound fonts as well as an SC-55 soundfont which I am guessing is one of the ones you already have.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bx6yUkEXCMV … Mk5rVVVnSnhoSUk

Here is a link to a page that has some more soundfonts available for download. I have not tried any of them.

http://www.personalcopy.com/sfarkfonts1.htm

Thanks, I grabbed the Chaos SFs, but the SC-55 appears to be an older revision of Patch93's SC-55 SF so I skipped that. I also grabbed the regular and Lite versions of personal Copy, Magic SF, Merlin SF and Unison on the linked site. I'll add them to my OP now.

The 4-32MB category is starting to get rather crowded, I may have to change the categories to 4-28 and 28+ to differentiate stuff that can fit onto an AWE32/64 from stuff that can be used with a Live/Audigy..

As an aside, I've accumulated a rather extensive library of Soundfonts in the process of this project; who should I contact about possibly uploading them to vogonsdrivers? I also have some ESS drivers that aren't on the site I'd be happy to upload.

I'm kind of hoping someone will make a Kurzweil soundfont one of these days.

Hi I'm not an expert, but IMHO, some others

2MB, user.sf2
FineGM-user_Vogons, is in Vogons library. One of the best - due to size, incomplete

4MB, vcgs4mv4.sf2
Voice Crystal - very good, sound-balanced

5.6MB, GUS.sf2
GUS_sbk_Vogons, is in Vogons library, good, from Gravis Ultrasound card?

25MB, SC-55.sf2
From Roland card? - most used by me, Some stereo reversible instruments, but still very good

More, not for games,

65MB, EdgeSounds.Genevoice.GM64Pro24.SF2
good, especially with high quality equipment, paid

235MB, Papelmedia.sf2
the next considered one of very good

266MB, JaZMan PRO GM-24 Bit SoundFont.sf2
by many consider to be the best, paid

407MB, Princess Soft 2.3.4.sf2
one of very good, paid

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407MB, Princess Soft 2.3.4.sf2
one of very good, paid

If Princess Soft is up to 2.3.4, what is the significance of the Princess Soft Gold 1.2.0 linked on the main site? And why is there a countdown to January 1st, 2018 on the main site, which appears to only be in Italian?

Sadly, I will not have the funds to spend spuriously on things like this for years to come, since my entire monthly income is tied up with just paying minimum payments to three credit cards, two of which are permanently closed, but will still take a decade to pay off.

I already had to ask JaZMan for a refund on Genesys PRO8 because it was a giant mess of bad loops and 5-10ms delays at the starts of some dozens of the samples, causing some notes to be noticeably late. Gave up trying to fix it and deleted it. Not the first JaZMan bank I've had to make fixes on, some of which I've sent back to him as xdelta3 patches.

Found some more including newer versions of the Chaos 12MB. 1.2 is the one I originally submitted. I found 1.9 and 2.0.

http://www.synthfont.com/soundfonts.html

http://rkhive.com/banks.html

https://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/27- … -200-gm-gs-v1-2
https://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/27- … drive-soundfont
https://polyphone-soundfonts.com/en/files/27- … ets/55-jns-gm-2

http://linuxmusic1.louwilkinson.us/SoundFonts.html

Here is a huge massive collection of soundfonts. I am downloading the entire collection through the torrent. 39.8GB
http://zandro.freeunixhost.com/

Quick comparison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw2mkPsi4xg

Hi,
I have also made some tests (and actually tested different test methods).
1. Changing soundfonts real time during playbacking a song.
(I think it can be useful only with 2-3 soundfonts 5 proved to be too much.)
2. Playing a song with all soundfonts one by one.

Tested songs:
1. Duke Nukem 3D Grabbag theme
2. Doom E1M1

Tested Soundfonts (1 from each category + my default one) :
Bank 0 - Reality GM/GS falcomod
Bank 1 - Creative 4MB
Bank 2 - GeneralUser GS SoftSynth
Bank 3 - SC-55 (Patch93)
Bank 4 - SGM - V2.01

I think adding timecodes for the description part is a must for such long videos.

https://youtu.be/aBhTH1Z9s4I

@appiah4:
Please, reconsider the inclusion of MT-32 converted GM files in your testbed (Dune Palace GM, Monkey Island GM Intro)
The reason is exactly what you have written:

compare them against each other in terms of suitability for retrogaming.

I think for serious retrogaming there are at least 4 better options for MT-32 based games so no user should/would choose the GM soundfont path (if it is even possible).
1. Real MT-32 Hw
2. Munt(Vsti)
3. GS devices with MT-32 map (SC-55, SC-VA, S-YXG50 etc.)
4. Full GS Soundfonts with MT-32 map.

Are your tests strictly limited to SF2 format sound fonts only?

I mean there are also 94B / TTS, ECW, FFF, PAT sound fonts in use with various cards.

And all of those are specific to various sound cards. Using them involves plugging in a specific device, then recording its analog output.

SF2 is universal and works on any machine that can run Windows, macOS, or Linux. Possibly some BSDs, depending on FluidSynth or BASSMIDI availability. And you can render the digital output to an unclipped floating point signal, at many times faster than real time.

I know this forum's name is about running old games on new systems, but I still can't get over how much it seems to be about hoarding legacy hardware and building it into frankenmachines for running old games in an "authentic" configuration.

kode54: I understand what you mean, however it is my opinion that the synth rendering of the sound cards that were made in the days the DOS games were daily business leaves should be considered as well.

I know this forum's name is about running old games on new systems, but I still can't get over how much it seems to be about hoarding legacy hardware and building it into frankenmachines for running old games in an "authentic" configuration.

This is the Marvin sub forum here which is actually about old hardware.