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Reply 18260 of 52786, by KCompRoom2000

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The GX150 came in yesterday so here are a couple pictures:

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A little surprising that this machine was manufactured on March 5th of 2002, especially because at that time Pentium 4 systems started catching on to the point where this is from the same generation as my Dimension 4300S. some cleaning is due for this since I've noticed the insides were clogged with black dust due to this presumably originating from an automotive service.

List of parts to get for this rig before I can set it up:
- Replacement PCI slot bracket holder (on the way)
- Replacement floppy drive (borrowing the one from the 4300S for the time being)
- A DVD-ROM drive - so I can have a dual-drive setup with its CD-RW drive.
- An ATI Radeon 7200-9000 AGP video card - preferred card for 9x gaming.

Reply 18261 of 52786, by probnot

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After years of wishful thinking, I finally pulled the trigger on a 486DX2-66. Paid a tad more than I wanted, but it all seems to […]
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After years of wishful thinking, I finally pulled the trigger on a 486DX2-66. Paid a tad more than I wanted, but it all seems to be in great shape, and also, is in the same case I had growing up, which was a definite selling point. Can't wait for it to come in.

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Beautiful case! I used to have a pentium pro 180 in a case like that years ago...would love to get one again, but for my 486.

Reply 18262 of 52786, by Mut

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Bought today on a flea market:

Asus P2B-F + some Pentium 2
Intel SE440BX2
(yet) unidentified socket 370 intel motherboard + some celeron
(yet) unidentified pcchips socket 3 motherboard
Fic PIO2
Awe64 CT4520
Geforce 6200 AGP
Abit KG7
Cx487

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Reply 18263 of 52786, by xplus93

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Mut wrote:
Bought today on a flea market: […]
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Bought today on a flea market:

Asus P2B-F + some Pentium 2
Intel SE440BX2
(yet) unidentified socket 370 intel motherboard + some celeron
(yet) unidentified pcchips socket 3 motherboard
Fic PIO2
Awe64 CT4520
Geforce 6200 AGP
Abit KG7
Cx487

Woah, wish I had a flea market like yours

XPS 466V|486-DX2|64MB|#9 GXE 1MB|SB32 PnP
Presario 4814|PMMX-233|128MB|Trio64
XPS R450|PII-450|384MB|TNT2 Pro| TB Montego
XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 18264 of 52786, by Deksor

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That's some sweet finds for a flea market ^^

The VIP board is great ... however it's a PCChips board and yours seems to have fake cache ... You can actually replace this fake cache by real cache, but that requires you to desolder all the fake cache chips and so this takes quite some time

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Reply 18265 of 52786, by xplus93

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Deksor wrote:

That's some sweet finds for a flea market ^^

The VIP board is great ... however it's a PCChips board and yours seems to have fake cache ... You can actually replace this fake cache by real cache, but that requires you to desolder all the fake cache chips and so this takes quite some time

WTF? Fake cache chips? What's the deal with that?

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XPS B1000r|PIII-1GHz|512MB|GF2 PRO 64MB|SB Live!
XPS Gen2|P4 EE 3.4|2GB|GF 6800 GT OC|Audigy 2

Reply 18267 of 52786, by Carlos S. M.

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Mut wrote:
Bought today on a flea market: […]
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Bought today on a flea market:

Asus P2B-F + some Pentium 2
Intel SE440BX2
(yet) unidentified socket 370 intel motherboard + some celeron
(yet) unidentified pcchips socket 3 motherboard
Fic PIO2
Awe64 CT4520
Geforce 6200 AGP
Abit KG7
Cx487

the Intel Socket 370 motherboard is likely an Intel D815EEA

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Reply 18268 of 52786, by nforce4max

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xplus93 wrote:
Deksor wrote:

That's some sweet finds for a flea market ^^

The VIP board is great ... however it's a PCChips board and yours seems to have fake cache ... You can actually replace this fake cache by real cache, but that requires you to desolder all the fake cache chips and so this takes quite some time

WTF? Fake cache chips? What's the deal with that?

This is old news and it has been brought up again and again since the early 90s, they did this to trick people and to save money.

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Reply 18269 of 52786, by bjwil1991

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nforce4max wrote:
xplus93 wrote:
Deksor wrote:

That's some sweet finds for a flea market ^^

The VIP board is great ... however it's a PCChips board and yours seems to have fake cache ... You can actually replace this fake cache by real cache, but that requires you to desolder all the fake cache chips and so this takes quite some time

WTF? Fake cache chips? What's the deal with that?

This is old news and it has been brought up again and again since the early 90s, they did this to trick people and to save money.

I had a PCChips M912 V1.7 ISA/VLB motherboard that had real L2 cache.

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Reply 18270 of 52786, by cj_reha

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bjwil1991 wrote:

I had a PCChips M912 V1.7 ISA/VLB motherboard that had real L2 cache.

Same here. There seem to be a few variations of the M912 v1.7, but I have the one with the white ISA slots, also known as "DX-6900." It came in a complete DX4-100 system I bought a few years ago, with 256 KB of REAL cache (confirmed by CACHECHK.)

I think some of these boards came with soldered on fake cache, but adding some sockets actually gave you cache functionality. I stole the chips off of my board a while ago as I replaced mobo's for my 486 but I still have it (and in fact, it performs like 2% better than my current 486's board, Aopen VI15G)

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Reply 18272 of 52786, by Deksor

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cj_reha wrote:
bjwil1991 wrote:

I had a PCChips M912 V1.7 ISA/VLB motherboard that had real L2 cache.

Same here. There seem to be a few variations of the M912 v1.7, but I have the one with the white ISA slots, also known as "DX-6900." It came in a complete DX4-100 system I bought a few years ago, with 256 KB of REAL cache (confirmed by CACHECHK.)

I think some of these boards came with soldered on fake cache, but adding some sockets actually gave you cache functionality. I stole the chips off of my board a while ago as I replaced mobo's for my 486 but I still have it (and in fact, it performs like 2% better than my current 486's board, Aopen VI15G)

I did that and it worked ! However my board died for other reasons a bit later 🙁

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Reply 18273 of 52786, by Jade Falcon

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Ok finally find myself a VNF100. Its installed on a PCI-e 9800gtx, Dose not come with all the mounts. But for what I'm doing it will be fine.

By the way I don't have a PCIE system to test the 9800, anyone in the US want it for free once I get it?

Reply 18274 of 52786, by Skyscraper

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Mut wrote:
Bought today on a flea market: […]
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Bought today on a flea market:

Asus P2B-F + some Pentium 2
Intel SE440BX2
(yet) unidentified socket 370 intel motherboard + some celeron
(yet) unidentified pcchips socket 3 motherboard
Fic PIO2
Awe64 CT4520
Geforce 6200 AGP
Abit KG7
Cx487

If you ever want to build the top "Y2K computer" then be sure to keep that motherboard.

The Athlon Thunderbird 1200 running on an AMD 760 motherboard was without a doubt the fastest thing released in year 2000, a bit hard to get your hands on if you weren't a professional system builder though.

The Abit KG7 was the best AMD 760 motherboard by far. It wasn't out until sometime during the spring 2001 but as the chipset was released in November 2000 I still think it would be fine for a Y2K build.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 18276 of 52786, by Kamerat

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Picked up a GigaByte GA-6WMM7 rev. 2.0 with a Celeron 466 and 128MB of RAM yesterday, also got a TNT2 M64 PCI and a PCI network card. Unfortunately the motherboard lacks ISA slot and YMF744 sound chip, but I can't really complains since I got all for free. 😀

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Reply 18277 of 52786, by Jade Falcon

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Skyscraper wrote:

If you ever want to build the top "Y2K computer" then be sure to keep that motherboard.

The Athlon Thunderbird 1200 running on an AMD 760 motherboard was without a doubt the fastest thing released in year 2000, a bit hard to get your hands on if you weren't a professional system builder though.

The Abit KG7 was the best AMD 760 motherboard by far. It wasn't out until sometime during the spring 2001 but as the chipset was released in November 2000 I still think it would be fine for a Y2K build.

wouldn't be more kt7 territory?

Reply 18278 of 52786, by Skyscraper

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Jade Falcon wrote:

wouldn't be more kt7 territory?

The Abit KT7 motherboard uses the KT133 chipset, only 100 MHz FSB and SDR PC133 memory. The Abit KG7 with AMD 760 chipset supports 133 MHz FSB and DDR 266 memory and is therefore a fair bit faster.

Even if you couldn't get the Abit KG7 in year 2000 you could get AMDs own retail AMD 760 (761) chipset motherboard which performs the same and has the same features but with more limited settings and such as it was a motherboard primarily aimed at system builders. The supply was low though and even some reviewers had to borrow motherboards from random system builders to do the reviews of the AMD 760 chipset and the Thunderbird 1200 (133) CPU.

If you want a Y2K build to be not only period correct but also realistic then we can also skip any Pentium III faster than 800 MHz as those were rarer than hens teeth during year 2000. You pretty much had to pry them out of Dells, Compaqs or IBMs firm grip.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 18279 of 52786, by Jade Falcon

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I picked up a Asus 6800 512mb agp for 20$. Kind of regret it as I found out after words it was a ddr2 128bit card. Sadly the 5950 ultra I bought was not in stock.