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First post, by .legaCy

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Hello, i bought a small lot of boards and i got one ISA Trident TVGA8900D and one Riva TNT2
Im thinking of buiding one 486 dx2 with a sb16 to go with the Trident.
And one 1Ghz Pentium III on a gigabyte GA-6VTX with 128MB of ram and windows 98
I'm not looking for a best or ultimate performance build because here in Brazil its pretty hard to get those high end parts, can you guys sugest me some options?

Reply 1 of 10, by clueless1

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I know you're not looking for the ultimate performance build, but I think the ISA card is more suited for a 386 or slow 486 (like an SX-25 or DX-33 at the most).

The system you have spec'd for the TNT2 sounds about right to me.

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Reply 2 of 10, by Deksor

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I've got a trident TVGA 8900 card but I wouldn't recommend it for even a 386/slow 486 unless it's the only thing you have : my 386SX 25 was loosing 0.7 fps in 3Dbench in comparison to a cirrus logic and the bandwidth was cut in half

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Reply 4 of 10, by .legaCy

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Well for the moment i will hold on the trident project, but about the tnt2 one PIII 1.0 with a gigabyte GA-6VTX ?(for the sound i will be using one awe64 because of dos games).
Thank you guys for the answers.

Reply 5 of 10, by clueless1

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.legaCy wrote:

but about the tnt2 one PIII 1.0 with a gigabyte GA-6VTX?

Already commented in my first reply. Looks like a good match!

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Reply 6 of 10, by lazibayer

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TNT2 might be too slow for P3 1GHz.

Reply 7 of 10, by .legaCy

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lazibayer wrote:

TNT2 might be too slow for P3 1GHz.

So you suggest which cpu?

clueless1 wrote:
.legaCy wrote:

but about the tnt2 one PIII 1.0 with a gigabyte GA-6VTX?

Already commented in my first reply. Looks like a good match!

Ohh sorry, my bad i missed that.
And thank you all for the suggestions

Reply 8 of 10, by lazibayer

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.legaCy wrote:
lazibayer wrote:

TNT2 might be too slow for P3 1GHz.

So you suggest which cpu?

Because you mentioned that it's hard for you to locate high-end parts, so if it's significantly cheaper to get a lower Pentium III, I'd go with that. But if you already have a P3 1GHz or there is no much difference in price between a low-end P3 and a 1GHz one, stick to your original plan. It doesn't hurt to go higher on the CPU side.

TNT2 came out the same time as 100FSB Pentium II in 1998 and it's more periodically correct for high-end P2, low-end P3 and their Celeron derivatives. 1GHz P3 is more periodically correct when paired with GeForce2.

I assumed that you got a 128bit TNT2. If it's a 64bit version, I'd pair it with a 300, 333, 366, 533, or 566MHz Celeron and OC it to 100MHz FSB, if they were again much cheaper than P3 1GHz.

Reply 9 of 10, by .legaCy

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lazibayer wrote:
Because you mentioned that it's hard for you to locate high-end parts, so if it's significantly cheaper to get a lower Pentium I […]
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.legaCy wrote:
lazibayer wrote:

TNT2 might be too slow for P3 1GHz.

So you suggest which cpu?

Because you mentioned that it's hard for you to locate high-end parts, so if it's significantly cheaper to get a lower Pentium III, I'd go with that. But if you already have a P3 1GHz or there is no much difference in price between a low-end P3 and a 1GHz one, stick to your original plan. It doesn't hurt to go higher on the CPU side.

TNT2 came out the same time as 100FSB Pentium II in 1998 and it's more periodically correct for high-end P2, low-end P3 and their Celeron derivatives. 1GHz P3 is more periodically correct when paired with GeForce2.

I assumed that you got a 128bit TNT2. If it's a 64bit version, I'd pair it with a 300, 333, 366, 533, or 566MHz Celeron and OC it to 100MHz FSB, if they were again much cheaper than P3 1GHz.

Well i will follow what you said i got for almost $3 dollars one celeron 333(i have a soft spot on this because back in the day it was the cpu pf the first computer that i used), now i have to source some motherboard, yes its a tnt2 it should be 128bit of memory banwidth(if i recall right the m64 ones are the ones with 64bit memory bandwidth)
The only problem is that i cant find one slot 1 motherboard working in my country, but i guess i can source one from ebay.
Im not into overclocking retro stuff so i will keep everything as stock.

Reply 10 of 10, by lazibayer

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.legaCy wrote:

Well i will follow what you said i got for almost $3 dollars one celeron 333(i have a soft spot on this because back in the day it was the cpu pf the first computer that i used), now i have to source some motherboard, yes its a tnt2 it should be 128bit of memory banwidth(if i recall right the m64 ones are the ones with 64bit memory bandwidth)
The only problem is that i cant find one slot 1 motherboard working in my country, but i guess i can source one from ebay.
Im not into overclocking retro stuff so i will keep everything as stock.

3 dollars for a Celeron 333 isn't bad! Back in the days I got a Celeron 366 and paired it with i740, and replaced i740 with Rage 128GL when I OC'ed it to 566MHz. I'd grill every bit of juice out of the 3 bucks I paid! 🤣