Socket 7 coolers should work as well.

Some coolers do have heavier spring action on the mounts than others. Some are indeed scary tight.

I always try to use a nut driver to install the heatsinks as that way you don't have to worry about a screwdriver slipping and killing/damaging the board.

i think there are 2 models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVkrgUuSOw

i got both

the smaller one i dont like, it has more noise
the bigger one i really like

http://www.misco.co.uk/product/110681/StarTec … and-TX3-and-LP4

this is what i got on a K6, not much force and it is tall

Ozzuneoj wrote:

I know that a lot of Socket A/462 coolers say that they also work with Socket 370, but some of the heatsinks I have attempted to attach to a Tualatin with a heatspreader were obviously not meant for this because the fit is so tight. Even after bending out the clip a little. My fear would be that having way too much pressure would actually break off the tabs on the socket, not to mention the risk of slipping and stabbing some important component with a screwdriver during mounting.

What would be the best practice for something like this? I may have a need for several (15 or more) Tualatin-capable heatsinks in the near future. An effective economical solution would be preferred. I've checked out listings for new old stock fans and such but the prices seem to be fairly steep.

It's funny, several months ago I grabbed a huge lot of Slot 1/A compatible heatsinks in a new old stock listing for a great price... now I need socket 370 coolers. 😵

get the early Socket A coolers (the later ones had a tighter fit for the sake of it not falling off due the weight), those were made for 60-70 TDP and the tualatin only had around 32 TDP, I fit mine Socket A cooler on the tualatin without bending or excessive force.

Ozzuneoj wrote:

I know that a lot of Socket A/462 coolers say that they also work with Socket 370, but some of the heatsinks I have attempted to attach to a Tualatin with a heatspreader were obviously not meant for this because the fit is so tight. Even after bending out the clip a little. My fear would be that having way too much pressure would actually break off the tabs on the socket, not to mention the risk of slipping and stabbing some important component with a screwdriver during mounting.

What would be the best practice for something like this? I may have a need for several (15 or more) Tualatin-capable heatsinks in the near future. An effective economical solution would be preferred. I've checked out listings for new old stock fans and such but the prices seem to be fairly steep.

It's funny, several months ago I grabbed a huge lot of Slot 1/A compatible heatsinks in a new old stock listing for a great price... now I need socket 370 coolers. 😵

Most socket 370 processors have the chip bare, without a cover, as all socket A ones, but the tualatin reintroduced the cover so it's a bit taller, that's why coolers not made with tualatin in mind are a tighter fit; take into account that they were originally made for the business/server market, where no one will be reutilizing coolers. And yes, NOS (and most used ones too) socket 370 cooler prices are frankly ridiculous these days.

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i think there are 2 models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmVkrgUuSOw

i got both

the smaller one i dont like, it has more noise
the bigger one i really like

The stock Intel HSFs came in I think many more iterations then just 2 different models. All had that peculiar click-on fan and I didn't like the noise of any of them.

There were (afaicr) 2 different mounting methods used on s370 stock Intel HSFs, either with a metal mounting clip (which fitted either a single or several of the socket tabs each side) or 2 shorter (and often green) clip-on thingies on the sides of the HSF. The green plastic click-on thingies were brittle and broke with such ease that I then decided I was never going to use those ones as is.

With Tualatin, I tend to mix and match different heatsinks with different (metal) mounting clips, even mixing in stock Intel s370 heatsinks with sA Athlon (XP) mounting clips.

I gotten about a dozen Copper Lites, these kinda bolt on one side and clip on the other side. Even though they won't be pressing perfectly even when mounted on a s370 Intel CPU with IHS (TIM would go a bit to the side of the bolt), these might be able to be made to fit. I don't think I ended up doing this as I had plenty old heatsinks and metal clips to combine.

Ozzuneoj wrote:

I know that a lot of Socket A/462 coolers say that they also work with Socket 370, but some of the heatsinks I have attempted to attach to a Tualatin with a heatspreader were obviously not meant for this because the fit is so tight. Even after bending out the clip a little. My fear would be that having way too much pressure would actually break off the tabs on the socket, not to mention the risk of slipping and stabbing some important component with a screwdriver during mounting.

What would be the best practice for something like this? I may have a need for several (15 or more) Tualatin-capable heatsinks in the near future. An effective economical solution would be preferred. I've checked out listings for new old stock fans and such but the prices seem to be fairly steep.

It's funny, several months ago I grabbed a huge lot of Slot 1/A compatible heatsinks in a new old stock listing for a great price... now I need socket 370 coolers. 😵

I had a quick look on ebay and prices don't seem to be ridiculous?
I think I used to pay like €5 even for the AM2/AM3 stock heatpiped HSFs and I thought this was a pretty good dead actually.

Maybe you can get something cheap somewhere, but I'd advice to either shell out or have patience. Most of the HSFs I ended up getting, I got from old systems. If need be, replace the fan and it's ready to go again! 😁

But imo it would be the best practice to just get a batch of HSFs that you know are workable for what you want to use them for.
And don't get too perfectionist if it's not perfect or can't be used when overclocking (Copper Lite is good for XP 3200+, but imo not for much more and I'm happy I got these instead of better but way more expensive cooling solutions).

I've taken a clip from an Athlon cooler which uses all 3 of the hooks, and just bent it and kept bending it until it was loose enough to feel safe on the Tualatin. I definitely err on the side of too loose, because I don't think it takes much to do the job and socket breakage is what I really fear.
I prefer these type of clips because they distribute the stress across both of the available hooks on socket-370. But I've never seen one that actually fit a 370 as-is, they've all been too tight until bent.

I also had a real Tualatin clip that came from a Compaq, and using it led to me breaking a socket, because it's operation was too funky. So I prefer the above over that thing.

Random, perhaps unnecessary trivia: there are also some Coppermines that have the heatspreader on them. But it's much more strongly associated with Tualatins (which all have it). I think Intel referred to the heatspreaded chips as "FC-PGA2" and will be shown that way in their database.

shamino wrote:

I've taken a clip from an Athlon cooler which uses all 3 of the hooks, and just bent it and kept bending it until it was loose enough to feel safe on the Tualatin. I definitely err on the side of too loose, because I don't think it takes much to do the job and socket breakage is what I really fear.
I prefer these type of clips because they distribute the stress across both of the available hooks on socket-370. But I've never seen one that actually fit a 370 as-is, they've all been too tight until bent.

I also had a real Tualatin clip that came from a Compaq, and using it led to me breaking a socket, because it's operation was too funky. So I prefer the above over that thing.

I did the exact same thing, it works 😁

What did the original Compaq HSF look like?

shamino wrote:

Random, perhaps unnecessary trivia: there are also some Coppermines that have the heatspreader on them. But it's much more strongly associated with Tualatins (which all have it). I think Intel referred to the heatspreaded chips as "FC-PGA2" and will be shown that way in their database.

Correct. The exact naming scheme was always a bit foggy to me though. Coppermine-t?
But I guess that's more a technical thingy. The Coppermine chips with IHS should work just like a regular Coppermine (except for having the IHS). I seem to recall also having a few s370 Coppermine based Celerons with IHS (mostly roughly around 900MHz).

I'm pretty sure exact model numbers (along with CPU frequencies) are in wikipedia.