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Nvidia GeForce 4 MX 460 Windows Protection Fault

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First post, by gladders

Posted on 2018-06-06, 16:33

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Hi all, sorry, it's one thing after another with me.

Got my P4 to install and boot windows. Installed drivers for the 460 (77.71 or something I believe), the last compatible with 98) and now I get a protection error on boot.

In safe mode, I remove the driver, but now 98 detects the card on boot, finds the driver somewhere tucked away, and reinstalls it!

When I try to proper remove nvidia syoftware via Add/Remove, Add/Remove crashes every time.

I looked in system monitor, card seems to share IRQ 9 with a lot of subroutines, such as USB and PCI controllers. I tried disabling the USB controllers as an experiment, but nothing changed, so I presume I'm barking up the wrong tree.

I've tried finding older drivers on nvidia's site and they seem to no longer be up, and I don't know where else to find them.

Help appreciated

Reply 1 of 10, by weldum

Posted on 2018-06-06, 18:23

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take out every card that's not important (modem, nic, usb, pci controllers) and test again
does the card work fine in other machine?

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Reply 2 of 10, by ATauenis

Posted on 2018-06-06, 19:43

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gladders wrote:
I've tried finding older drivers on nvidia's site and they seem to no longer be up, and I don't know where else to find them.

http://www.nvidia.ru/object/win9x_archive.html
Files that are deleted from NVidia servers can be easily found on many FTPs using Filewatch, Napalm, Filesearching or any other FTP search machine.

But the issue seems not to be caused by software. Are other video cards working on the machine? Did you try to run other Windows versions on this hardware?

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Reply 3 of 10, by gladders

Posted on 2018-06-06, 20:19

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I only have this machine. It's the first computer I've ever built myself, so it's a learning process.

It's a P4 mobo, with the only other card being a Soundblaster Live in a PCI slot.

Reply 4 of 10, by weldum

Posted on 2018-06-06, 20:20

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Which motherboard is?

Reply 5 of 10, by ATauenis

Posted on 2018-06-06, 21:16

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gladders wrote:
It's a P4 mobo, with the only other card being a Soundblaster Live in a PCI slot.

How much RAM is installed? Win9x does not like amounts more than 384 (or 512) MB. It may work even with 1,2 GB, but only on certain hardware configurations.

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Reply 6 of 10, by gladders

Posted on 2018-06-06, 21:47

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512, I'm aware of the ram limit.

I notice the computer can't even see the Soundblaster. But focussing on getting the GeForce to work first. Annoying that I can't delete the drivers at all!

Reply 7 of 10, by weldum

Posted on 2018-06-07, 02:02

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well the soundblaster problem can be a problem with DMA transfer, that's pretty common with post Pentium 3 machines with ISA, other problem can be the lack of the -5v line on the slot/psu, these two are right assuming yours is an ISA card
i would try to lower the ram amount to something more workable like 256mb and try again to install drivers, the last one for 9x is 81.98 and is downloadable from the nvidia page, other good driver is the 45.23.
also, being a P4 machine, you could try a linux livecd with something like lubuntu to see if the card gets recognized and is working right

Reply 8 of 10, by gladders

Posted on 2018-06-07, 13:17

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weldum wrote:
Which motherboard is?

epox ep-4pda3i

weldum wrote:
well the soundblaster problem can be a problem with DMA transfer, that's pretty common with post Pentium 3 machines with ISA, other problem can be the lack of the -5v line on the slot/psu, these two are right assuming yours is an ISA card
i would try to lower the ram amount to something more workable like 256mb and try again to install drivers, the last one for 9x is 81.98 and is downloadable from the nvidia page, other good driver is the 45.23.
also, being a P4 machine, you could try a linux livecd with something like lubuntu to see if the card gets recognized and is working right

I don't have ISA, it's a PCI Soundblaster.

Problem with the NVidia website is every download link returns a '403 forbidden' error. I can't download anything.

Reply 9 of 10, by weldum

Posted on 2018-06-07, 13:20

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See in vogons drivers or in Phil's computer lab website, you can find frivers there

Reply 10 of 10, by gladders

Posted on 2018-06-07, 17:41

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Thanks weldum, Phil had the right drivers, it seems to be working now! Haven't installed a game yet though...

Will get on with getting the Soundblaster to work now.

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