^I had a similar Presario a while back with a K6-2 @ 450MHz; it had a Gigabyte OEM mATX board with SiS 530 chipset (100MHz bus support), and PCI and ISA slots but no AGP slot.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

MOAR 486!
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Nice, that's just about the ideal 486 motherboard isn't it? It seems to be pretty hard to find them, especially working 3.3v capable boards with PCI slots, for a reasonable price now.

Not quite today, but a few days ago, I got an old gamepad, for a whopping 50 pence.

I got some unpowered speakers too, similar to what my family's first PC setup used, which sound as good as you might expect - my soundblaster cards sound pretty good with them though (though I do prefer the Bose portable speaker, its EQ makes OPL3 sound pretty awesome)

liqmat wrote:

debs3759 wrote:

liqmat wrote:

Just a couple of months ago I came very close to buying a large 1960s era TV that was in factory new condition from an estate sale, but it was big, heavy and $350 which I thought was steep. It did have the original remote and manuals which was amazing.

I didn't know remote control TVs were a thing in the 60s 😀

I believe my parents referred to them as clickers.

https://www.metv.com/stories/a-history-of-the … its-advertising

I still have a similar 4 button Zenith remote to the one in the first picture. It has spring loaded hammers inside that struck chimes.

I remember finding an RCA TV that was new enough to have a digital tuner readout (2-83, red LED, no cable above 13) that still used a sonic remote. It was annoying cause when someone used the sink upstairs, the high pitched squeal of the pipes would make it start channel surfing up...The volume buttons also emulated the old rotary volume control (just keep turning down the volume to power off. Then press volume up to turn on). Very strange set.

EDIT: Found a pic...4 buttons, that's all. Looks like it tunes cable frequencies, but no, UHF only!

I'll stop de-railing this thread with my TV talk now 😀

SW-SSG wrote:

^I had a similar Presario a while back with a K6-2 @ 450MHz; it had a Gigabyte OEM mATX board with SiS 530 chipset (100MHz bus support), and PCI and ISA slots but no AGP slot.

Nice to know, I was always curious whether my Socket 7 K6-2/400 build with no AGP slots was actually representative of a period correct build, now I can rest easy.

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I've always been curious about these K6 OEM systems, does it have a S7 board in it or an SS7? I never used an MMX or K6 system, went from P54C straight to a Pentium II, so I want to know if the K6 or K6-2 were commonly paired with SS7 boards with AGP slots, or whether they were mostly used on regular S7 boards and SS7 was a novelty even back then..

"Super" Socket 7 was a marketing term, never a technical specification, so it meant whatever the marketeers wanted it to mean. Generally that was >=83MHz FSB and AGP, but that AGP could be integrated, so no discrete slot.

Not too long ago I picked up a Packard Bell Club system explicitly advertised as Super Socket 7. It had a GVC So7 motherboard with SiS530, so 100MHz FSB and AGP-but integrated in a nasty UMA design.

Related question, All these Presarios and Aptivas with K6-2's at the time seem to have been housed in small tower cases with curved outlines, front doors of some kind, which is really interesting.. They seem to have a lot of distinct character to them, probably something shared generally by cases from 97/98, so I have started considering moving my own '98 K6-2/V2-SLI build from an Elan Vitan T10 case to the case below (the one at the bottom, the top one will become a UMC U5SX-33F system)..

Yes, this will happen. That would free the T10 case for a more appropriate build like Socket A or 754.F

man the memories those cases bring back...

Hmm 😒 More or less the best part of 15 kg that arrived today...going to sell 90% again...

Nice, that's just about the ideal 486 motherboard isn't it?

Depends on what you looking for.

Silicon Star Inc. PI4/PI4T PCI features:

CR2032 battery - no
Integrated COM - no
Integrated Floppy - no
PS/2 - no
4 72-pin SIMM slots - yes
EDO RAM support - yes
All late CPU support - maybe*
Flexible CPU voltage - yes
512kb/1mb L2 cache - yes
60mhz FSB option - unknown

Overall it's a nice board though. Especially for the price I bought it 😈

for a reasonable price now

Ebay is not an option for such things for how long now? 7-8 years? Local stores, garage sales, etc are the only option to buy it cheap.

*Cyrix 586 and AMD Am5x86 are not listed.

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Hmm 😒 More or less the best part of 15 kg that arrived today...going to sell 90% again...

...in this case cleaning with water and detergent was the best option 😎

Therefore this lot was worth the money and I think when selling the remaining parts this card was +-0 😎

I didn't notice the lack of floppy controller, I just thought since I could see the IDE ports that it must also have one - strange 😀

The Serpent Rider wrote:

Ebay is not an option for such things for how long now? 7-8 years? Local stores, garage sales, etc are the only option to buy it cheap.

That's a shame, I need to visit some car boot sales and see what's there. Though I do also think there's a bit of a cultural difference - in the UK, charity shops generally don't sell electronics and there's not really a used market for quite old electronics so electronic equipment such as PCs does mostly just get recycled. What doesn't get recycled does seem to appear on ebay though, but as full systems rather than parts

A 3DLabs Wildcat VP760 and an Oxygen VX1 (both sealed).

My two latest grabs.

better pic.. definitely new.

^Nice! What a pitty that you cant combine tchem making 64 megs for banks 😀

Batyra wrote:

^Nice! What a pitty that you cant combine tchem making 64 megs for banks 😀

Hmmmm... that is an interesting thought. Would it be at all possible to set them with two different addresses, break up a 64MB soundfont(really only 56MB since they only see 28MB total each), and then write a piece of middleware that redirects the bottom half of the instruments to one card and the top half of the instruments to the other card?

If that would work, you really could set up even more than 2 cards.

cyclone3d wrote:

Batyra wrote:

^Nice! What a pitty that you cant combine tchem making 64 megs for banks 😀

Hmmmm... that is an interesting thought. Would it be at all possible to set them with two different addresses, break up a 64MB soundfont(really only 56MB since they only see 28MB total each), and then write a piece of middleware that redirects the bottom half of the instruments to one card and the top half of the instruments to the other card?

If that would work, you really could set up even more than 2 cards.

Yikes, if you manage to make this work for multiple cards, imagine how long it'd take the sound fonts to load. I have a Goldfinch CT1920 card and there's a fairly long delay at startup (Win98SE) to load the soundfont into the card's memory.

Oh what a day, what a lovely day! EVEN MOAR 486!

It's amazing to see ISA, VLB, and PCI on a 486 motherboard, with integrated I/O as well. I had a Shuttle Hot 433 board with PCI, ISA, and integrated I/O. Those were considered high end 486 motherboards when Pentium started rolling out in the 1990's.

The Serpent Rider wrote:

Oh what a day, what a lovely day! EVEN MOAR 486!

That seems to be a great board, and supports most of the newer 486 and 5x86 (not sure about early 486 which need 5V). I think it is the last revision of the board. I set one up recently to test a Cyrix 5x86-133/4X (not mine). I'm waiting to receive a DX-50 so I can test all the possible fsb speeds. Just received cache chips to upgrade mine to 512 KB, and will be upgrading the RAM to 128 MB (the max it will take) for Win 95 OSR 2.5. Not sure yer if I need to do anything special to restrict the amount of RAM for DOS 6.22/WFW 3.11

Jumper settings are not all on the board or in the manual. You might find http://gboeger.de/Computer/Asus_PVI486SP3/pvisp3-cpu.html useful.

got these 2 SBC cards for an upcoming SBC build - I am limited to exactly this "half-sized ISA" length