How to get more conventional memory from this setup?

Reply 20 of 22, by luckybob

Posted on 2019-05-12, 19:55

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Using a memory manager is actually VERY authentic.

One is even included in dos 6.22 its called memmaker

i'm personally getting a 486/66 optimized right now, and thanks to QEMM 8 I have 633K availible.

scsi, pnp network, pnp sound, cd all above 640k. 😀

edit, included are ym config and autoexec

config.sys

1DEVICE=c:\qemm\dosdata.sys
2DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM R:3
3device=c:\qemm\dos-up.sys @c:\qemm\dos-up.dat
4DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 /SIZE=11520 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=1024
5DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCM.EXE
6REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
7DOS=HIGH,UMB
8DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 /SIZE=16416 C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPI4DOS.SYS /D
9DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 /SIZE=29904 C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:MSCD001
10FILES=30
11LASTDRIVE=Z
12DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:4 /RES=3872 /SQT=FE00-FEFF /SIZE=4848 C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
13STACKS=9,256
14SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:3 /RES=3776 /SQF C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P

Autoexec.bat

1@ECHO OFF
2PROMPT $p$g
3REM ***IMPORTANT***  NETWORK MUST BE INITIALIZED BEFORE SOUND
4REM SET UNIVERSAL PARAMATERS
5SET TEMP=C:\DOS
6PATH C:\QEMM;C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;C:\DRIVERS;C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK;C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE;C:\DRIVERS\SCSI;C:\DRIVERS\CT2940;C:\DRIVERS\CDROM;C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP
7
8REM MOUSE
9C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 /LO CTMOUSE
10
11REM CDROM INIT -USE ONLY ONE-
12REM C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001
13SHSUCDX /D:MSCD001
14
15REM NETWORK SETUP
16SET MTCPCFG=C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\NETWORK.CFG
17C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\PACKET\KTC2000P.COM
18C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\DHCP
19C:\WINDOWS\NET START 
20
21REM SOUND INIT
22SET SOUND=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
23SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
24SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
25SET CTCM=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
26
27C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\DIAGNOSE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
28C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\MIXERSET /P /Q
29C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCU.EXE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
30
31REM RANDOM SHIT BELOW
32REM C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 21 of 22, by luckybob

Posted on 2019-05-12, 21:36

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I'm still poking at this system. For some reason once I got the network card setup, it no longer boots into WFW311. So after I finger that out, this little beast is going onto ebay!

Also, I setup a boot menu in dos 6.22 (totally authentic) and now my files are such:

CONFIG.SYS

1[MENU]
2MENUITEM=ALL, Load everything WITH memory manager (633K)
3MENUITEM=DOS, Load everything WITHOUT memory manager (503K)
4MENUITEM=ZERO, Load nothing (572K)
5MENUDEFAULT=ALL, 20
6
7[ALL]
8DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOSDATA.SYS
9DEVICE=C:\QEMM\QEMM386.SYS RAM R:3
10DEVICE=C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.SYS @C:\QEMM\DOS-UP.DAT
11DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 /SIZE=11520 C:\QEMM\QDPMI.SYS SWAPFILE=DPMI.SWP SWAPSIZE=1024
12DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCM.EXE
13DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:3 /SIZE=16416 C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPI4DOS.SYS /D
14DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 /SIZE=29904 C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:MSCD001
15DEVICE=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:4 /RES=3872 /SQT=FE00-FEFF /SIZE=4848 C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
16SHELL=C:\QEMM\LOADHI.COM /R:3 /RES=3776 /SQF C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P
17DOS=HIGH,UMB
18
19[DOS]
20DEVICE=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCM.EXE
21DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPI4DOS.SYS /D
22DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\SCSI\ASPICD.SYS /D:MSCD001
23DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
24SHELL=C:\COMMAND.COM /E:1024 /P
25DOS=HIGH,UMB
26
27[ZERO]
28
29[COMMON]
30REM DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
31FILES=30
32LASTDRIVE=Z
33STACKS=9,256
34
35REM NOTES
36
37REM EXAMPLE: MENUITEM=[LABEL],[DESC]
38REM Commands under common always run
39
40REM Using MENUDEAFAULT makes it possible to choose a certain
41REM item(ALL) and if it's set also select that item after a certain
42REM time(20 secs)

AUTOEXEC.BAT

1@ECHO OFF
2PROMPT $p$g
3REM ***IMPORTANT***  NETWORK MUST BE INITIALIZED BEFORE SOUND
4REM ***IMPORTANT***  ANY CHANGES TO THE 'ALL' SECTION REQUIRE QEMM TO RE-RUN
5REM SET UNIVERSAL PARAMATERS
6SET TEMP=C:\DOS
7PATH C:\QEMM;C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;C:\DRIVERS;C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK;C:\DRIVERS\MOUSE;C:\DRIVERS\SCSI;C:\DRIVERS\CT2940;C:\DRIVERS\CDROM;C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP;
8REM Uses the identifier from CONFIG.SYS to goto a label
9REM current flags ALL,DOS,ZERO
10GOTO %CONFIG%
11
12:ALL
13REM MOUSE
14C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 /LO CTMOUSE
15
16REM cdrom init -USE ONLY ONE-
17REM C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001
18SHSUCDX /D:MSCD001
19
20REM network setup
21SET MTCPCFG=C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\NETWORK.CFG
22C:\QEMM\LOADHI /R:1 C:\PACKET\KTC2000P.COM
23C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\DHCP
24C:\WINDOWS\NET START 
25
26REM sound init
27SET SOUND=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
28SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
29SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
30SET CTCM=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
31C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\DIAGNOSE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
32C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\MIXERSET /P /Q
33C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCU.EXE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
34
35REM random shit below
36REM C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
37GOTO EXIT
38
39:DOS
40REM everything except QEMM 
41
42REM mouse setup
43CTMOUSE
44
45REM cdrom init -USE ONLY ONE-
46REM C:\WINDOWS\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD001
47SHSUCDX /D:MSCD001
48
49REM network setup
50SET MTCPCFG=C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\NETWORK.CFG
51C:\PACKET\KTC2000P.COM
52C:\DRIVERS\NETWORK\MTCP\DHCP
53C:\WINDOWS\NET START 
54
55REM SOUND INIT
56SET SOUND=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
57SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6
58SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
59SET CTCM=C:\DRIVERS\CT2940
60C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\DIAGNOSE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS

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61C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\MIXERSET /P /Q
62C:\DRIVERS\CT2940\CTCU.EXE /S /W=C:\WINDOWS
63
64REM random shit below
65REM C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE /X
66GOTO EXIT
67
68:ZERO
69CLS
70
71:EXIT

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 22 of 22, by Matth79

Posted on 2019-05-12, 23:04

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Remembering a really basic old tip... If you NEED EMS (and if not, use the NOEMS parameter instead of RAM), then choose a pageframe location that does not split the UMB area, you can get much better usage if the UMB is not split.

Secondly, use MEMMAKER and examine the log file to get the load and final sizes, where possible, re-order non-dependent devicehigh and loadhigh by order of final size ascending within load size descending, as this gives the best packing opportunity.

If there is still more than one UMB block, then rerun MEMMAKER for best fit, or rerun anyway and let it choose the fit now things are arranged for best chance

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