appiah4 wrote:

GigAHerZ wrote:

Got the Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 card and some 3" diskettes for two old nokia mobile phones through a trade.
Now i have the famous 3d DEcelerator!

I have the Pro (Virge/DX) version of that. I have yet to see it accelerate anything. It is a good PCI card though, not very easy to find S3 cards with decent VGA to be honest; most of them have blurry or washed out signal..

Here you can buy AGP versions for about 0,5-1 Euro/ piece and PCI ones are at least 5 Euro untested

Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

Windows9566 wrote:

Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store. https://i.imgur.com/BIUnI1T.jpg […]
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Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

I just tested mine, and it won't POST. I kind of knew I was fucked when it arrived with the fan knocked off, but I tried nonetheless. There is no visual problems on the card, probably the ball solders under the GPU broke under whatever load it took to rip off the cooler. It's DOA. I hope you have better luck with yours.

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then..

appiah4 wrote:

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Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store. https://i.imgur.com/BIUnI1T.jpg […]
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Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

I just tested mine, and it won't POST. I kind of knew I was fucked when it arrived with the fan knocked off, but I tried nonetheless. There is no visual problems on the card, probably the ball solders under the GPU broke under whatever load it took to rip off the cooler. It's DOA. I hope you have better luck with yours.

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then..

I put it into my Pentium 3 rig and it posted, showed the Award BIOS screen, and booted to Windows 98.

and i also don't like when some retro hardware arrives broken from shipping damage after waiting for days for it to arrive.

appiah4 wrote:

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then...

To my unskilled eye it looks just like a capacitor, similar or same to those around.
Here an image of my identical card.

If you want a 9250 AGP instead, here is mine. I find it really ugly!

I'll throw both into the bay soon 😀

Windows9566 wrote:

Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store. https://i.imgur.com/BIUnI1T.jpg […]
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Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

There's just one question I have for you...Did you order the code red?

retardware wrote:

To my unskilled eye it looks just like a capacitor, similar or same to those around. Here an image of my identical card. https:/ […]
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appiah4 wrote:

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then...

To my unskilled eye it looks just like a capacitor, similar or same to those around.
Here an image of my identical card.

If you want a 9250 AGP instead, here is mine. I find it really ugly!

I'll throw both into the bay soon 😀

It looks like it could also be an inductor from the coloring but who knows I have no way of measuring.. I wonder if there is a reference design document for radeon 9250 somewhere..

Windows9566 wrote:

I put it into my Pentium 3 rig and it posted, showed the Award BIOS screen, and booted to Windows 98.

and i also don't like when some retro hardware arrives broken from shipping damage after waiting for days for it to arrive.

I tried it in my Dell Dimension XPS D333.. which was actually pretty dumb as these cards are picky about mainboards so I will retry it in a GA-6OXT i815 board 😀 Fingers crossed..

EDIT: It did not work in the P3 either and ended up messing up my WinME installation completely. It had undergone a few motherboard changes already so it was due a reinstall anyway, but still, meh..

appiah4 wrote:

It looks like it could also be an inductor from the coloring but who knows I have no way of measuring.. I wonder if there is a reference design document for radeon 9250 somewhere..

both cards use reference design, and AGP one has it labeled as a capacitor
small capacitors like this are used for decoupling and missing very rarely (read almost never) result in something not even powering up

asus 8800gtx - this is the fourth gtx: first was in bad condition, the second had bad video memory, the third was ok, but a bolt broken into the card.

appiah4 wrote:

Windows9566 wrote:

Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

I just tested mine, and it won't POST. I kind of knew I was fucked when it arrived with the fan knocked off, but I tried nonetheless. There is no visual problems on the card, probably the ball solders under the GPU broke under whatever load it took to rip off the cooler. It's DOA. I hope you have better luck with yours.

Wouldn't it be worth "baking" the card, if you suspect solder balls?

rasz_pl wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

It looks like it could also be an inductor from the coloring but who knows I have no way of measuring.. I wonder if there is a reference design document for radeon 9250 somewhere..

both cards use reference design, and AGP one has it labeled as a capacitor
small capacitors like this are used for decoupling and missing very rarely (read almost never) result in something not even powering up

Yeah, I know 😒 but still worth trying, no?

H3nrik V! wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

Windows9566 wrote:

Just found a ATi Rage Fury Maxx at the thrift store.

I just tested mine, and it won't POST. I kind of knew I was fucked when it arrived with the fan knocked off, but I tried nonetheless. There is no visual problems on the card, probably the ball solders under the GPU broke under whatever load it took to rip off the cooler. It's DOA. I hope you have better luck with yours.

Wouldn't it be worth "baking" the card, if you suspect solder balls?

Right, I'll try this actually. 195C for 10 minutes, what could go wrong..

appiah4 wrote:

H3nrik V! wrote:

Wouldn't it be worth "baking" the card, if you suspect solder balls?

Right, I'll try this actually. 195C for 10 minutes, what could go wrong..

Worst case is you'll have a non-functioning card .. Aka exactly what you have today 😎

H3nrik V! wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

H3nrik V! wrote:

Wouldn't it be worth "baking" the card, if you suspect solder balls?

Right, I'll try this actually. 195C for 10 minutes, what could go wrong..

Worst case is you'll have a non-functioning card .. Aka exactly what you have today 😎

I can confirm that this is exactly what happened and I trashed the card.

appiah4 wrote:

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to f […]
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The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then..

The broken part is a ceramic capacitor just like those nearby. A few hundred nF probably.

appiah4 wrote:

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I can confirm that this is exactly what happened and I trashed the card.

Did the plastics melt?
Did the hologram fade?
*curious*

retardware wrote:

Did the plastics melt? Did the hologram fade? *curious* […]
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appiah4 wrote:

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I can confirm that this is exactly what happened and I trashed the card.

Did the plastics melt?
Did the hologram fade?
*curious*

Plastics did not melt but after only five minutes at 195C as soon as I took off the card out of the oven the SMD BIOS chips slid and fell off. The soldermask had turned yellowish.

Moral of this story: Don't bake retro hardware.

appiah4 wrote:

I can confirm that this is exactly what happened and I trashed the card.

You better sell it to me 😀 It's a good source of parts even if dead.

ph4nt0m wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to f […]
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The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then..

The broken part is a ceramic capacitor just like those nearby. A few hundred nF probably.

Just checked my stash and I have 100nF 16V 0603 and 220nF 16V 0805, this looks too small to be 0805 so I'll just try to solder in a 100nF 0603.. What could go wrong (aside from me never before having soldered SMD stuff..)

appiah4 wrote:

ph4nt0m wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to f […]
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The 9250 PCI I posted just above did not POST either, and upon close inspection I found a missing SMD component.. I'll try to find a cheapo similar 9250 AGP and pilfer it for the part, transplant it to this one and see if it works then..

The broken part is a ceramic capacitor just like those nearby. A few hundred nF probably.

Just checked my stash and I have 100nF 16V 0603 and 220nF 16V 0805, this looks too small to be 0805 so I'll just try to solder in a 100nF 0603.. What could go wrong (aside from me never before having soldered SMD stuff..)

This cap is unlikely to help, but it doesn't hurt to try anyway.