Thermalwrong wrote:

I remember seeing that plug style when I was wondering what the WSS standard was all about, it's the Microsoft Windows Sound System card 😀

You are right - many thanks!!! 😀

Dont find too much about that card and no offers at Ebay. Is it a rare card worth buying? Features seem to be quite OK, with OPL and SB compatability.

EDIT: Found one:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Microsoft-Windows-Sou … =p2047675.l2557

40$ for a new one...therefore I will not get it.

Not everyone is willing / capable of doing the necessary repairs to save some of these items from being scrapped for gold though. If we're not looking at these, and no one else is looking to sort the wheat from the chaff, doesn't that mean that each of those cards will be cut up to melt down for gold?

Personally I like finding interesting things that are otherwise unattainable because they're now rare enough that they've gone well beyond what I'm willing to pay.

I've had some sorting to do this weekend, got a big box full of...

a few gems in there, going to need to straighten out a few pins here and there...

with the few I already had I think I have a good selection for socket A now, and yes that's a Barton 3200+ on top

and a bunch of more modern stuff

that was definitely worth it, the collection is growing 😀
I need to find a proper way to store all those CPUs, at least the good ones... I saw a video from phil today where he had them in small ziploc ESD bags, probably going to do that and label each one.

I just hope that most of them will still work, at least they're safe now 😀

also got this in the mail:

I probably paid too much for it but I very specifically picked this board for nostalgic reasons, it was the first motherboard I bought when I built my first very own computer back in 1998 same revision even, I started with a 386 in 1989 but this was mine alone 😀
I'm trying to slowly rebuild my personal computing history.

Artex wrote:

Artex wrote:

Not only is finding one of these tough, but boxed is even tougher, boxed and complete is even tougher, but boxed, complete & with the optional surround/reverb module is pretty much unobtaniaum!

Well crap. Of course the second I say that, another one shows up on eBay. Literally have never seen one in my many years of collecting.

That auction ended. That end price is just insane.

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Artex wrote:

Artex wrote:

Not only is finding one of these tough, but boxed is even tougher, boxed and complete is even tougher, but boxed, complete & with the optional surround/reverb module is pretty much unobtaniaum!

Well crap. Of course the second I say that, another one shows up on eBay. Literally have never seen one in my many years of collecting.

That auction ended. That end price is just insane.

Saw that!

Benetton93 wrote:

Unlike standard FX5200, this thing is not quite common

Very uncommon I'd say. Used to have one back in the day, but I've never seen another since (5200 ultra that is). Nice find!

Bought some retro console stuff - a VMU memory card & 2x MadCatz Force Packs for my Sega Dreamcast.

I don't know about anyone else, but buying 2nd hand used memory cards always makes me a little nosey to see what the previous owner was playing. In this case it was Shenmue & a game which I can't quite make out, but based upon the icon and filename - sakatok2 could be "Soccer Tsuku Tokudaigou 2".

It's ironic really, as Shenmue was pretty much the reason I bought another VMU, as I was running out of space for saves. So I might take a sneek peak at the previous owner's progress. 🤣

xjas wrote:

He also had a sweet Aptiva P133 set up running Doom for people to play. I approved.

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That's one nice setup there. Finding that monitor in good working condition with low hours on the CRT is almost mission impossible.

These odd graphic cards... I'm pretty sure they were designed for some sort of industrial machinery like CNC machine or something...

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Artex wrote:

Artex wrote:

Not only is finding one of these tough, but boxed is even tougher, boxed and complete is even tougher, but boxed, complete & with the optional surround/reverb module is pretty much unobtaniaum!

Well crap. Of course the second I say that, another one shows up on eBay. Literally have never seen one in my many years of collecting.

That auction ended. That end price is just insane.

Jeebus cripes...

To counter that, here's what I just bought for 1/1000 of that (4 EUR):

Local pickup, I was the only bidder. It boots with a "Disk error". Some of the games are incomplete, but what's there is minty fresh!

There's still hope for us cheapskates. 😀

HanJammer wrote:

These odd graphic cards... I'm pretty sure they were designed for some sort of industrial machinery like CNC machine or something...

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM...
AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used for textures, to supplement the card's own RAM.
Does that card work in a regular motherboard?

Grzyb wrote:

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HanJammer wrote:

These odd graphic cards... I'm pretty sure they were designed for some sort of industrial machinery like CNC machine or something...

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM...
AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used for textures, to supplement the card's own RAM.
Does that card work in a regular motherboard?

Maybe RAM is on another side of PCB... IMHO the cards look like prototype desktop versions or versions for software driver developers. Because I saw CHIPS graphics only in laptops.

Those chips chips were also prevelent in industrial boards too.

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Roman555 wrote:

Maybe RAM is on another side of PCB...

Obviously it's this card - https://allegro.pl/oferta/absolutnie-unikalna … -agp-8192192262
No RAM on the reverse side, either!
And looks like the seller got it to work, so I guess it does work with regular mobos.
Weird thing, indeed!

IMHO the cards look like prototype desktop versions or versions for software driver developers. Because I saw CHIPS graphics only in laptops.

I've seen CHIPS on regular cards, but they were mostly EGA and early VGA, for 8-bit ISA.

Grzyb wrote:

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM... AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used […]
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HanJammer wrote:

These odd graphic cards... I'm pretty sure they were designed for some sort of industrial machinery like CNC machine or something...

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM...
AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used for textures, to supplement the card's own RAM.
Does that card work in a regular motherboard?

Probably, because it does have video memory - there's 2MB of embedded SDRAM in the Chips B69000 😉

dionb wrote:

Probably, because it does have video memory - there's 2MB of embedded SDRAM in the Chips B69000 😉

OK, mystery solved, then.
Anyway, Dotronic seems to specialize in industrial gear, so obviously that's where those cards came from.

One of my bandmates arrived few minutes ago and said: I know you are computer rubbish freak, so here you go!
I was a bit sceptic at first, but then I opened tower she brought and inside was:
Dual Slot 1 motherboard (Tyan Tiger) with two P3-733 (and one ISA slot!)
512 MB RAM
Matrox G400
Matrox RT2000 video editing card
Some additional PCI IDE card (maybe some RAID solution?)
Bunch of hard drives
SB 128 (cheap PCI)

I gave her bottle of red wine and small bottle of home-made appricot brandy 😉

So... what is the oldest system which can use two CPUs?

Roman555 wrote:

Grzyb wrote:

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM... AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used […]
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HanJammer wrote:

These odd graphic cards... I'm pretty sure they were designed for some sort of industrial machinery like CNC machine or something...

Ah, that mysterious card with no video RAM...
AGP was designed to allow use of the host RAM, but it was supposed only to be used for textures, to supplement the card's own RAM.
Does that card work in a regular motherboard?

Maybe RAM is on another side of PCB... IMHO the cards look like prototype desktop versions or versions for software driver developers. Because I saw CHIPS graphics only in laptops.

No, it's not. It's built into the chipset. I havn't tested it yet, but it was sold as working and seller showed some screens of it working... we will see.

Grzyb wrote:

Obviously it's this card - https://allegro.pl/oferta/absolutnie-unikalna … -agp-8192192262 No RAM on the reverse side, either! A […]
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Roman555 wrote:

Maybe RAM is on another side of PCB...

Obviously it's this card - https://allegro.pl/oferta/absolutnie-unikalna … -agp-8192192262
No RAM on the reverse side, either!
And looks like the seller got it to work, so I guess it does work with regular mobos.
Weird thing, indeed!

IMHO the cards look like prototype desktop versions or versions for software driver developers. Because I saw CHIPS graphics only in laptops.

I've seen CHIPS on regular cards, but they were mostly EGA and early VGA, for 8-bit ISA.

Yeah, that's this one 😉

Wolfus wrote:

So... what is the oldest system which can use two CPUs?

Oh, such systems did exist long before Slot 1 era, see eg. Compaq SystemPro from 1989 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_SystemPr … Multiprocessing