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Reply 20 of 288, by Predator99

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OK, perfect! Took a quick look at MAME, but dont understand yet where and with what name I have to put the images to and how to bind them to a machine.
Will these images be included in the distribution? Think they also are still copyrighted?

Regarding PCem...: I already tried all this to get the Award ROM running but it doesnt.

If you try more of the images uploaded by me I would be happy if you provide the screenshots, I can inlcude them in my posts later.

Reply 21 of 288, by Stiletto

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Predator99 wrote:

Will these images be included in the distribution?

Generally speaking, what happens is that the unique filesizes and checksums of the images/ROM dumps are added to MAME's sourcecode. The images/dumps themselves are not included in MAME's distribution.

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Reply 22 of 288, by rfka01

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Hi Stiletto, thanks for clarifying this!

I'm going slowly through the list of ROMs you posted and add the load information (name, checksums and hardware info) to MAME.

I can help you set up MAME once my commit is in. The process is that contributors offer their work in form of a pull request for review on https://github.com/mamedev/mame/, and once it's cleared it's being integrated into the main source.

The next ROM that's not a simple slot in is #7, the MORSE KP286HF. It looks like it's an even or odd ROM missing its sibling, yet it should have readable text since there's only one ROM IC.

As for screenshots ...

I've posted screenshots for #1, #3 and #4

#2 is the Magitronic B233 that was already in MAME

and I've appended screenshots from #5 and #6

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Reply 24 of 288, by Predator99

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The MORSE KP286HF ROM is strange. My file does indeed not look like a valid ROM. I re-seated and verified it several times with my TL866 and get always the same data.

Think I have to recheck if the board is running, but if I remember right it didnt. Maybe I try also with another BIOS.

Reply 25 of 288, by rfka01

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Hi, thanks for checking. I'm slowly plodding on. #9, U3911-V3 Uniron, is announcing to the world that its ROM is bad by beeping 1-1-4.

#13 is the same as the Siemens PCD-2 (not L or M) that's already in MAME. Our dumps are identical (so I presume correct), but the emulated machine complains about a defective keyboard controller.

Here are the screenshots for #8, #10, #11 and #12

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Reply 26 of 288, by Predator99

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So I tested the MORSE-board and its not running. Reset-LED on the Post-card is on all the time. So bad luck this BIOS does not work.

As already written by you it look like the part of a HI/LO ROM. 1st bytes are...

ª@?'éo40/0O IGOTC.C18,Aeia earnsIcAlrgt eevd14 abokDie ut 2,ocos A303 hn-44

So you can read "American Megatrends Inc..." with every 2nd character missing. But the label on the ICs seems to be fitting to the board, compare this one here

http://www.amoretro.de/wp-content/uploads/mor … motherboard.jpg

Wait 😀 Think I have it...look at the file..:

0000h: ª@?'éo40/0O IGOTC.C18,Aeia earnsIcAlrgt eevd14 abokDie ut 2,ocos A303 hn-44
8000h: ýõ0/99RMDANSIS()97 mrcnMgted n.l ihsrsre.36Okro rv,Sie10Nrrs,

So this seems to be a weird adressing scheme? LO part starting at 0000h, HI part starting at 8000h?

Reply 27 of 288, by Predator99

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Thats it! New combined image works in PCem..! 😎

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Reply 29 of 288, by rfka01

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Good call! The Morse ROM now runs, but the Uniron is still complaining ... it'll be interesting to see if you can get it to run in PCEM.

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Reply 30 of 288, by Predator99

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OK, re-read the Uniron and got a different file. Verified several times and should be OK now. No time to test at the moment...

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Reply 31 of 288, by rfka01

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Hi and thanks again!

Unfortunately I couldn't get the ROM from the Laptop board, #15, to run. #16 is fine, the Olivetti one (#17) starts up but complains about "Timer Sync Error", so probably something is not yet emulated properly.
#18 ( ZM-720-02) has the IBM AT ROMs dated 01/10/84, if you recombine the ROMs into 32K units they match the CRC verification for the originals.

#19 seems to have had a ROM transplant ... they are 8K ROMs (2764), you'd usually have 4 of them like on #18, they don't line up for readable text or the jump vectors, and they are (c) 1983, when the AT came out in 1984 ... the board also seems a later one.

As for #9, the Uniron board, your re-dump did it 😀

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Reply 32 of 288, by SSTV2

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With various old PC parts, that I recently acquired, came in a stray UV EPROM chip of a 386 motherboard. I tried to identify the motherboard it belonged to, from a BIOS ID string and post image in the appropriate thread with all info, but it appears, that the 386 MB was made by a manufacturer, that no one was able to identify yet (as far as googling results shows). The BIOS ID string is 30-0201-428028-00101111-070791-OPWB, numbers in bold shows manufacturers ID, the last four letters of the ID sting probably means, that the MB used OPTi chipset which supported Write-Back cache writing policy.

The only motherboard picture I was able to source from that manufacturer looks like this:

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It's marked "M1487/9 rev. B1" and nothing more.

I'm curious, could you guys pop this BIOS image in one of yours 386 MBs with OPTi chipset and confirm, that it's compatible with it? It's AMI BIOS from 1991/07/07, original UV EPROM chip type - 27C512.

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Reply 33 of 288, by Deksor

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So the manufacturer number is 8028. On this website it refers to 3 unidentified motherboard : http://www.geocities.ws/alacidehard/BIOS.html

However one POST string brought me there Can anyone Identify/help me with jumper settings for this 486 board?

.. and then here : https://www.wimsbios.com/forum/what-motherboa … 834.html#p69808

according to TH99 the manufacturer is VEXTREC TECHNOLOGY, INC.
according to elhvb, it's Gemlight.
according to some guy on winmsbios, it's the ASK company from Hong Kong.

Hmmm not sure if it's really useful 😒

Trying to identify old hardware ? Visit The retro web - Project's thread The Retro Web project - a stason.org/TH99 alternative

Reply 34 of 288, by SSTV2

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It's some stealth manufacturer. I've scrolled through the 386 BIOS collection thread and found that this 80386 BIOS image collection motherboard is the closest match for the BIOS image that I got. Compared both images and they are very similar, so it probably belongs to the OPTi 82C391/82C392/82C206 chipset.

Reply 35 of 288, by Thermalwrong

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The board in that picture (which I also have) seems to be a clone of the BEK P405 motherboard: https://www.instagram.com/p/BjsYiyqgp4y/

So it's quite likely that the manufacturer that used the 8028 BIOS ID either cloned or made OEM variants of motherboards.

Reply 36 of 288, by Miphee

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Hello

I have a Compumate Super Turbo V mainboard without a BIOS chip.
I have a blank Hitachi HN27C64G-15 EPROM that is compatible and I need a standard BIOS that works well in this board. I don't need anything special, just a stock BIOS that fits this 8K chip. (the chip in the mainboard is from another XT and it has a german BIOS).
Could you link me a compatible (english) BIOS? Thank you.

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Reply 38 of 288, by Tiido

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What to do when I have a different BIOS for already catalogged motherboard ? I would think the better idea is to add the new BIOS to the post of that mobo rather than make another entry with the new BIOS.

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Reply 39 of 288, by Predator99

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Tiido wrote:

What to do when I have a different BIOS for already catalogged motherboard ? I would think the better idea is to add the new BIOS to the post of that mobo rather than make another entry with the new BIOS.

Yes, makes sense. But you need to ask the author of the 1st post to add it...