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Reply 20 of 53, by keenmaster486

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DosFreak wrote:

For now but don't think that will go on forever. Security and maintenance are issues and the forums will be getting an upgrade.

So you may have to go through a proxy WebOne - proxy for old browsers to make them Web 2.0-capable when that happens.

Are they issues or just concerns at this time?

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Reply 21 of 53, by Caluser2000

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Installed Lubuntu 10.10 from March 2011 mag CD on the P166MMX and updated a the repository list. I am using Firefox 3.6.3 from 2010 so don't get any certificate or encryption warnings.

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So a 23 year old system, running a 8 year old OS in 2019 quite happily. USB 2.0 card installed and working fabulously along with 100Mbs Realtech nic.

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Lubuntu installation routine picked up the Debian Jessie install, resized the partition to give it somewhere to install to and updated the boot manager to reflect there were two operating systems on the hard drive.

Oh and picked up all the hardware on the system. Well, not quite, the 16.5" lcd TV was giving Xorg greif in Lubuntu and Debian Jessie but quickly sorted by hooking up the trusty HP 19' lcd monitor..

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 22 of 53, by lolo799

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Hello, I'm posting this from my 2MB HP 200LX, using a pcmcia network card, WWW/LX and HV from http://www.dasoft.com

Edit, on a newer machine:

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Making screenshots on the 200LX is complicated, I ended up using a software called PrintCapture https://web.archive.org/web/20060208074353/http://www.printcapture.com/ which did work for DOS screens and in the 200LX user interface, but not when hv was running, the serial output was garbled completely.

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Reply 23 of 53, by Caluser2000

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Excellent effort lolo799.

There's a glitch in the matrix.
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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 24 of 53, by fatkatsupra1

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Wow - blown away by some of the submissions using truely old systems!

This is my first post so hello! 😎

I am posting on here using an IBM 760EL /Pentium 133MHz / 48MB ram / original 1.0GB hard disk / 30GB CF drive in PCMCIA adaptor / Linksys 10/100 EtherFast PCMCIA NIC / Windows 98 SE no tweaks / Browser: Seamonkey 1.1.19

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Reply 25 of 53, by Caluser2000

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Welcome fatkatsupra1. Nicely done.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 26 of 53, by oeuvre

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what a beauty! welcome aboard... we love old ThinkPads here

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Reply 27 of 53, by keenmaster486

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Who can post on the oldest browser accessing the website I'm hosting on my 286?
http://casablanca25.mynetgear.com:286

I'll start:

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IBM Thinkpad 365CD -- Windows 3.1 -- Internet Explorer 3.03

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Reply 28 of 53, by xjas

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Thoroughly enjoying the chunky Thinkpad love in this thread. Was nice to get mine back out. 😀

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Reply 29 of 53, by Caluser2000

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keenmaster486 wrote:

Who can post on the oldest browser accessing the website I'm hosting on my 286?
http://casablanca25.mynetgear.com:286

Not the oldest browser.

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All hail the mighty Zenith Z286LP PLUS!! Machine was produced in 1990 running Arachne 1.97GPL,286- dos web browser on MS Dos 5.0a.

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There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 30 of 53, by oeuvre

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keenmaster486 wrote:
Who can post on the oldest browser accessing the website I'm hosting on my 286? http://casablanca25.mynetgear.com:286 […]
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Who can post on the oldest browser accessing the website I'm hosting on my 286?
http://casablanca25.mynetgear.com:286

I'll start:

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Reply 31 of 53, by keenmaster486

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Caluser2000 wrote:

All hail the mighty Zenith Z286LP PLUS!! Machine was prodused in 1990 running Arachne 1.97GPL,286- dos web browser on MS Dos 5.0a.

Very nice! Running Arachne on my 286 is slow as molasses, though - any tips for speeding it up or is it just that way?

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Very funny.

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Reply 32 of 53, by Caluser2000

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keenmaster486 wrote:
Caluser2000 wrote:

All hail the mighty Zenith Z286LP PLUS!! Machine was prodused in 1990 running Arachne 1.97GPL,286- dos web browser on MS Dos 5.0a.

Very nice! Running Arachne on my 286 is slow as molasses, though - any tips for speeding it up or is it just that way?

Disable all images, reduce the menu bar to the smallest and have plenty of EMS. On my wee system I can set EMS allocation in the bios. Also it's the 286 and under version with no maths co-pro support. The zenith has performance almost the same as a generic 286/16 due to some technical magic on the mobo. A 386sx/12 processor board is/was available but a 286 running windows 3.1 in standard mode with plenty of ram is faster than the equivalent clock speed 386sx running 386Enhanced mode.

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There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 33 of 53, by gdjacobs

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I fired up a Debian 2.2 chroot for some fun.

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Reply 34 of 53, by Caluser2000

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What kernel was that gdjacobs?

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A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 35 of 53, by oeuvre

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kernel sanders

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Reply 36 of 53, by keenmaster486

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oeuvre wrote:

kernel sanders

🤣. When or if they ever get to kernel version 11, I will be disappointed if this is not the codename for it.

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I fired up a Debian 2.2 chroot for some fun.

Looks great! Good stuff!

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Reply 37 of 53, by gdjacobs

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Caluser2000 wrote:

What kernel was that gdjacobs?

An RT build of 4.19. As I said, it's a chroot.

I was going to load Arena, but your webserver must use a version of HTTP that's too new for it. I'll see if I can find a viable copy of NCSA Mosaic.

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Reply 38 of 53, by keenmaster486

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gdjacobs wrote:

I was going to load Arena, but your webserver must use a version of HTTP that's too new for it. I'll see if I can find a viable copy of NCSA Mosaic.

Hmm, it's only HTTPServ from MTCP - I think it supports HTTP 0.9, 1.0, and 1.1. Not sure what other versions of the protocol there are.

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Reply 39 of 53, by gdjacobs

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HTTP/2 is out, but HTTP/1.1 is common enough to be ubiquitous. Looking at the data for Arena, it should indeed work with HTTP/1.1, so I'm not sure what's going on.

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