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Reply 101 of 149, by harddrivespin

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Will the VOGONS logo change? It looks really nice as it is. I also hope there's an option to maintain the purple-y blue colour scheme the site currently has. Hopefully the new site won't be some optics nuclear disaster like so many sites are nowadays...

Reply 102 of 149, by liqmat

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harddrivespin wrote:

I also hope there's an option to maintain the purple-y blue colour scheme the site currently has.

Yes, I rather like it myself as well. Reminds me of my hometown's performing arts hall. The entire building, inside and out, purple.

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Reply 103 of 149, by dan86

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harddrivespin wrote:

I also hope there's an option to maintain the purple-y blue colour scheme the site currently has. Hopefully the new site won't be some optics nuclear disaster like so many sites are nowadays...

Keeping a color scheme is not a hard thing to do. A better question is, does the site staff want to keep it? A lot of forums nowadays is moving from one off custom themes/styles. Remember that less custom = less support headaches.
Id like to see the color scheme kept. But as long as its not a blinding white/blue or hot dog stand and just as usable if not more usable why should a user care?

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Reply 104 of 149, by Dominus

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Before the same gets posted again and again, just enjoy the preview Dosfreak posted 😉

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Reply 106 of 149, by 7F20

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Reply 107 of 149, by Dominus

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how about we close this thread now until the update actually happens? And no, I am not privy to that information.

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Reply 108 of 149, by Qbix

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As you probably have realised, the update was delayed (due to some real life events).
We are looking for a new window to perform it, but a (new) date has not yet been picked.

While updating, we will also take the opportunity to reconfigure, harden the server settings and perform more tasks.
This should not affect the forum itself, but it does make for an increase in the time needed for the upgrade,
hence it takes some planning and preparation to perform.

The logo will change and so will the colours. It's still purple, but a different shade.
In general, the contrast between text and background will increase significantly as that is on the low side currently.

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Reply 109 of 149, by appiah4

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Qbix wrote:

In general, the contrast between text and background will increase significantly as that is on the low side currently.

This is a welcome change.
Also, please don't change your avatar, ever.

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Reply 110 of 149, by Bruninho

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appiah4 wrote:
Qbix wrote:

In general, the contrast between text and background will increase significantly as that is on the low side currently.

This is a welcome change.
Also, please don't change your avatar, ever.

Agreed. Qbix has the best ever avatar I have seen here, hahaha. Yours (netscape) is a close second, it was my fav browser.

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Reply 111 of 149, by brostenen

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Just waiting for the update. That said. I like how things are as of now.

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Reply 112 of 149, by 640K!enough

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Qbix wrote:

While updating, we will also take the opportunity to reconfigure, harden the server settings and perform more tasks.

Does that include disabling support for older TLS protocols, as seems to be common security practise these days? That would eliminate a good number of older browsers, which often don't support anything more recent.

Reply 113 of 149, by keenmaster486

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Guys, the website will likely be completely broken on older browsers, and we have to accept that probability.

It may be a blessing in disguise as we could put together a system to at least read the forums from old browsers, if not log in and post, and support even older browsers than the current site works with.

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Reply 115 of 149, by DosFreak

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Data could be wiped or worse modified
System could be used to attack other systems
People are lazy and use the same passwords everywhere
Access to the system via a vulnerability can allow further access to the system and even escape from a VM to access other VMs
etc

For compatibility with the new website you can try:
Try the website when it's released and see if it works before complaining....
Try an Internal\External Proxy that allows sites with newer ciphers or standards to work with old system, various ones can be used but one can be found on MSFN that's updated.
Try WebOne proxy: WebOne - proxy for old browsers to make them Web 2.0-capable
Try a newer browser for your old OS: List of Web Browsers For All Operating Systems

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Reply 116 of 149, by maxtherabbit

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DosFreak wrote:
Data could be wiped or worse modified System could be used to attack other systems People are lazy and use the same passwords ev […]
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Data could be wiped or worse modified
System could be used to attack other systems
People are lazy and use the same passwords everywhere
Access to the system via a vulnerability can allow further access to the system and even escape from a VM to access other VMs
etc

For compatibility with the new website you can try:
Try the website when it's released and see if it works before complaining....
Try an Internal\External Proxy that allows sites with newer ciphers or standards to work with old system, various ones can be used but one can be found on MSFN that's updated.
Try WebOne proxy: WebOne - proxy for old browsers to make them Web 2.0-capable
Try a newer browser for your old OS: List of Web Browsers For All Operating Systems

what about allowing people to access the forum via unencrypted http in a read-only capacity? I don't see any way that could be exploited

Reply 117 of 149, by DosFreak

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Anything accessible to the internet can be exploited, it's just a matter of how and when.

Hopefully login is only allowed from https on the new site, not sure if http will be enabled or not.

If http allowed I can see the stupid questions now asking why they can't login so you'd have to make changes for that by possibly adding a message when a user uses http that login is not allowed. IIRC, chrome is disallowing the mixing of http and https pretty soon if they haven't already.

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Reply 119 of 149, by Dominus

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Let me point to the site name: Very old games on new systems!
Seriously these days you need to have your server and site secure.

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