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Reply 32100 of 52859, by cyclone3d

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Yep, will do. I've already got an couple different MWave cards including the same one you have.

I do have some drivers already but everything I could find about them said that they were super hard to set up with what was available and I haven't bothered messing with them because of that.

Here are a couple pages with info and driver packs:
http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/pb/faq/mwave.htm
http://www.mikebouckley.net/mwave/boards/dsp2780/mc34w.htm

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Reply 32102 of 52859, by appiah4

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Warlord wrote on 2020-01-24, 05:10:

AMD offers driver version 4.13.7192 on theie website which should in theory have the hotfix in 4.12.6277?

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Reply 32104 of 52859, by appiah4

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Warlord wrote on 2020-01-24, 06:09:

idk, I only remember needing this driver on my 1st ss7 build around 2002

That's strange, the 4.13 driver is dated October 2001.. Maybe you used this driver in early 2001? Regardless, I will stick to your driver instead 😀

Ok, so apparently AMD's website is correct, there is more than one Rage 128 specific driver from ATI and they cumulatively include the compatibility fixes, so the special version of 4.13.7192 is the latest one that has the MVP3 fix for Rage128 cards. The five drivers I've located are:

w98_r128_4_11_6263
w98_r128_4_12_6277 (Yours)
wme_w98_r128_4_12_6292
wme_r128_4_13_7078
wme_r128_4_13_7192 (Mine)

Maybe I should zip these and upload them to Vogonsdrivers for future reference..

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Reply 32105 of 52859, by imi

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-01-24, 03:55:
Was doing a really broad search on eBay and ran across a seller that has some PC/104 audio/video boards so I bought one. The sou […]
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Was doing a really broad search on eBay and ran across a seller that has some PC/104 audio/video boards so I bought one.
The sound chip is a Crystal CS4236B so it should work great for a retro PC/104 build.

No idea what the video is. And it doesn't have a VGA out port. I'll have to try to look it up later and edit my post.

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The MM/104 has an onboard NTSC/
PAL/SECAM video-input decoder with
YUV output, is SoundBlaster-compatible, and includes an optional dual-PCMCIA controller.

https://m.eet.com/media/1151039/22895-47270.pdf
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The seller still has 3 left for $27 shipped. I already got my shipping confirmation.

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Also picked up this MWave for cheap card since it is boxed / has the original disks because I don't know of anywhere to download the original disks.
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oooh nice, I've been looking for something like that forever, but I never seemed to find any... not for a reasonable price anyways, thank you, thinking about getting one of those now ^^

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Reply 32106 of 52859, by jheronimus

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Got my first "interesting" VLB videocard today — an ARK1000VL board.

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I have a couple of Cirrus Logic boards and an S3 805, but never saw any of the ARK/Mach/Trio boards locally. I know VLB benchmarks are a tricky issue as no one has enough hardware to make a comprehensive comparison, but looks like ARK1000VL is one of the fastest DOS cards for VLB.

486 is definitely not a practical choice for retro gaming, but for some reason I keep coming back to this platform. Maybe that's because I simply like stuff that was designed right before Win95/Pentium went mainstream. It's pretty fast, yet still not meant for "general public" — if that makes sense to anyone. There are still some relatively obscure jumpers everywhere, and you certainly need a lot of know-how to make things work — at least compared to your typical Socket 7 build. Someone once said on Vogons that a proper 486 will fight you every step of the way, and I think that's a good summary.

I think I'll pair this card with an Intel DX4/WB (or maybe even a DX4 Overdrive), an AOpen VI15G board, a GUS Classic clone and an AWE32 Value board (CT3910, the one that has OPL3 but no SIMM slots). It's gonna run DOS and WfWG.

BTW, are Asus VLB boards better that VI15G? I can get one, but it's not going to be cheap enough for an "impulse buy", so I'm figuring whether that makes sense. They both use SIS471 chipset, and the only major difference seems the absence of a PS/2 header on the AOpen board.

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Reply 32107 of 52859, by appiah4

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How about pairing it with a Cyrix or AMD 5x86? I bet it could churn out decent Quake FPS at 320x200 😁

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Reply 32108 of 52859, by jheronimus

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-24, 13:43:

How about pairing it with a Cyrix or AMD 5x86?

I don't have a Cyrix, but I do have an AMD 5x86 and a motherboard with an Opti895 chipset that supposedly can run even at 40MHz. However, maybe it's my luck, but 5x86 (even at 33Mhz) on VLB always turned out to be a somewhat unstable combination that doesn't give a lot of benefits. In my experience, if something can't run on a DX4, it won't run on a 5x86 either.

Personally, I'd reserve a 5x86 for one of those PCI, "fastest overclocked 486 with a Voodoo" builds.

I bet it could churn out decent Quake FPS at 320x200 😁

I'm pretty sure that it won't 😀 Descent, however, is a big question — never ran that game on a proper 486.

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Reply 32110 of 52859, by pewpewpew

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Thrift score $4, 2004.

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Reply 32112 of 52859, by wirerogue

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leadtek winfast geforce2 pro, nos in sealed box for another upcoming build.

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Reply 32113 of 52859, by pan069

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A Microsoft Cordless Wheel Mouse (PS/2). Supports both PS/2 and Serial. It seems to hang my machine when connected to serial. I.e. in DOS, the mouse driver loads, mouse is found, then I start e.g. "edit", the machine hangs. Might be an issue with the mouse driver (by Microsoft). Not sure whats happening there. Works great when connected to PS/2 though.

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Reply 32114 of 52859, by TheMobRules

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jheronimus wrote on 2020-01-24, 13:25:

BTW, are Asus VLB boards better that VI15G? I can get one, but it's not going to be cheap enough for an "impulse buy", so I'm figuring whether that makes sense. They both use SIS471 chipset, and the only major difference seems the absence of a PS/2 header on the AOpen board.

I have both an AOpen VI15G and an ASUS VL/I-486SV2GX4, I think the ASUS is a bit faster and less finicky, maybe due to a better/more modern BIOS (latest from ASUS is from 1997 vs. 1995 from AOpen) with more optimization settings. As you said, they're pretty similar hardware-wise. One thing to note: I managed to convert my ASUS board to support 3V processors, but haven't done that (and don't know how to) on the AOpen, so I can only use 5V CPUs on that one.

Reply 32115 of 52859, by Robert B

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Paradise Systems PVGA1A-JK - WDC '89 62-003139-130 - WDC 1989 61-603235 - mnf 1990 week 30 FCC ID : DBM603235P - ISA 8 bit
ATI Graphics Solution Plus Rev. 1 - mnf 1987 week 40 - ISA 8 bit
Chips&Technologies P82C435 - P82A436 - ISA 8 bit - the BIOS chip was missing the protective tape but I covered it as soon as I bought - status unknown

These puppies are among my oldest video cards in my collection.

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Reply 32118 of 52859, by dionb

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Accidentally bought a Tyan Thunder S2912 today, with an unknown dualcore Opteron and 5GB RAM.

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Needed a bigger case for my son's PC, saw a Coolermaster Stacker advertised for a nice price nearby. While I was already driving towards it the seller messaged that there was "still a computer in it" I could have if I wanted. So I now have this beast. A few bad caps, but nothing a few minutes' soldering couldn't fix. Now, what the hell to do with it...

Reply 32119 of 52859, by Cobra42898

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There's no such thing as too many spare parts/boards/CPUs.....
great deal.

Even if you don't like it, you could recoup your cost by selling it to buy what you want more.
Nice.

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