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First post, by Swiego

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I have been struggling to understand the best video card for a given system based upon researching threads here and elsewhere. The situation that I run into is that many threads focus either on operating system compatibility or processor compatibility (and loosely related to the latter point, period correctness.) but, it seems to me that the matrix I need must look at both.... what OS compatibility I can expect as a function of driver availability, bugs etc. but also what cards are incompatible with older architectures as a function of driver instruction sets etc. Most “what’s the best” discussions I’ve perused look at one of these two dimensions but not both simultaneously.

Is there a matrix out there that organizes cards by tiers following an OS & processor platform two dimensional matrix? If so I’d really appreciate pointers to it! If not, perhaps this is something we can collectively document?

Reply 1 of 4, by Joseph_Joestar

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We do have a DOS compatibility matrix:

https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/

It might be useful to make another one for driver versions and OS compatibility, as you suggest. Support for 8-bit palleted textures and table fog could also be relevant for early Win9x games.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Athlon64 3400+ / Asus K8V-MX / 5900XT / Audigy2
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 970 / X-Fi

Reply 2 of 4, by The Serpent Rider

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Is there a matrix out there that organizes cards by tiers following an OS & processor platform two dimensional matrix?

That's too much trouble to make and CPU compatibility, for the most part, is not an issue.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 3 of 4, by agent_x007

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For Win98 it's more about additional drivers and stuff, not chipset drivers themselves (I ran Win98 on i7 980X).
IF your hard drive controller, GPU, USB, Audio, LAN, etc. has drivers for WIn98 - it should work (assuming platform configuration isn't an issue* )
*like having too much RAM on install
Since GPUs with 8-pallete option are limited to FX Geforce series and earlier (not sure about ATI but probably earlier than Radeon 9700), you should stick to that. Fastest official is 6800 Ultra, while moding .inf gives you 7900 GTX support (assuming you won't get issues with 512MB VRAM on moded driver).

Windows XP works natively with everything up to Sandy Bridge and AM3+.
Later support isn't official, but there are guides for how to do it.
Best GPUs for XP are based on Kepler (native) or Maxwell 2.0 (GTX970+ need .inf edit) and GCN 1.0 (Radeon HD 7970).

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Reply 4 of 4, by Baoran

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agent_x007 wrote on 2020-02-20, 16:19:
For Win98 it's more about additional drivers and stuff, not chipset drivers themselves (I ran Win98 on i7 980X). IF your hard dr […]
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For Win98 it's more about additional drivers and stuff, not chipset drivers themselves (I ran Win98 on i7 980X).
IF your hard drive controller, GPU, USB, Audio, LAN, etc. has drivers for WIn98 - it should work (assuming platform configuration isn't an issue* )
*like having too much RAM on install
Since GPUs with 8-pallete option are limited to FX Geforce series and earlier (not sure about ATI but probably earlier than Radeon 9700), you should stick to that. Fastest official is 6800 Ultra, while moding .inf gives you 7900 GTX support (assuming you won't get issues with 512MB VRAM on moded driver).

Windows XP works natively with everything up to Sandy Bridge and AM3+.
Later support isn't official, but there are guides for how to do it.
Best GPUs for XP are based on Kepler (native) or Maxwell 2.0 (GTX970+ need .inf edit) and GCN 1.0 (Radeon HD 7970).

None of the radeons work with 8 bit paletted textures in FF7 and FF8. Not even the original Radeon DDR from 2000 that I have.