Baoran wrote on 2020-02-22, 19:10:

Does commdore 64 count as OEM computer? 😜

Is it classified as a personal computer ( PC ) ?
I never had one.

Don't have a picture but I'm sur everyone knows what a C64 looks like. 😉

My oldest that I have that works is Dell optiplex 780 tower using 760 tower chassis, that I built from parts years ago and was daily driver for nearly 6 years then restored to OEM quality when someone donated another 780 tower. This saved money and motherboard had a funny flaw that clock jumps around in XP and 7 for years, windows 10 kept time correct so that board also got replaced finally and now in correct 780 chassis, plastic pieces replaced.

Cheers,

I still have my Timex 2068 computer purchased back in 1983 and yes it works.

Commodore 64, OLYMPIC EDITION!

That goddamn Newtronics unit though - that's a story in and of itself. Brought one over from Poland, 23k bike trip (no biggie, loved the ride) but holy shit to make it work afterwards...

1990:
Zeos 386 notebook
9.5" STN, CL-GD610/620 (256Kb), AMD 386SX 20MHz, 166Mb hdd, 5Mb (Japan/USA)

1991:
NoteStar NP-925 notebook
9.5" STN, AMD 386SX 25MHz, 328Mb hdd, 4Mb (Taiwan)

1993:
AST Advantage Explorer 486SX/25 notebook
9.5" STN, Chips&Tech (512Kb),Intel 486SX 25MHz, 162Mb hdd, 4Mb (Taiwan)

Alleycat! I remmeber playing that on an XT in the early 90s at my mom's supervisor's place - a nook under the stairs, her husband had this game. It was CGA for sure, I was 8 so I don't really recall much else.

If we're including non-PCs I could add:

Sinclair ZX81
Sinclair ZX Spectrum +2A
Acorn Electron
Commodore 64
Amstrad CPC 464
Commodore Amiga 1200

Though they're all just "old" by release date and the only one of those I've actually had in my collection for any amount of years is the ZX Spectrum, which I acquired in the mid-1990s.

Also have a bunch of Macs I acquired in the mid-2000s, but all 2nd hand older models at the time:

Power Macintosh G3 Beige Desktop (G3 @ 300MHz)
Power Macintosh G3 Blue & White (G3 @ 350MHz)
iMac Rev. D (G3 @ 333MHz)
2x iMac DV, Summer 2000 Models (G3@ 400MHz)

Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-02-22, 21:45:

Baoran wrote on 2020-02-22, 19:10:

Does commdore 64 count as OEM computer? 😜

Is it classified as a personal computer ( PC ) ?
I never had one.

It depends on what you consider a personal computer. If you just think about IBM pc x86 compatibles then we shouldn't put apple crap here either. Someone else might say that pretty much all home computers are personal computers.

Yes that distinction is important.
If you think PC only means IBM PCs then, no, C64 does not count. But if you consider that it stands for personal computer then a C64 counts. And Apple's computers, too (even though Apple tried hard to make the distinction back then with the PC and Mac guy ads).

For that matter, it would be my HP Omnibook XE3-GC, even though it's a bit temperamental at times. I'd say it's from the early 2000s maybe 1998 even so. Earliest date code I found in it was 1999 (the rest was unreadable)

I still count it as working (as in, it turns on and POSTs), but partially (and I'm too lazy to update my sig), as the hard drive connector broke off (as HP used a weird L-shaped IDE connector that is rather difficult to remove without damaging it).

Of course I am not counting my Compaq Armada 1700, as this one is well... Dead as a hammer.

Forgot the pictures, unfortunately this the only "decent" picture I have of it.

By the way, it's the 1024x768 (iirc) version, it's a bit beat up, and my phone does a great job of masking off the scratches and other "battle scars" it has (lol)

My current oldest brand name machine is a Compaq LTE Lite 25 laptop. It's a 386 SX 25 Mhz, 120 MB Hard Drive, 4 MB RAM, and a Page White VGA Black and White display. Completely working, though the battery is really weak as you'd expect. It's currently running DOS 6.2 and Geoworks Ensemble.

Cheers,

Harley.

barleyguy wrote on 2020-02-24, 23:39:

My current oldest brand name machine is a Compaq LTE Lite 25 laptop. It's a 386 SX 25 Mhz, 120 MB Hard Drive, 4 MB RAM, and a Pa […]
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My current oldest brand name machine is a Compaq LTE Lite 25 laptop. It's a 386 SX 25 Mhz, 120 MB Hard Drive, 4 MB RAM, and a Page White VGA Black and White display. Completely working, though the battery is really weak as you'd expect. It's currently running DOS 6.2 and Geoworks Ensemble.

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Cheers,

Harley.

Hah I have the LTE 4/25 too! You sure that's a 386? Mine is a 486/25 MHz, the only difference is mine has the integrated trackball. I am waiting on God knows what to learn how to 3D print so I can print up two screen latches (BOTH mine broke), otherwise it works just fine. 12 Mb RAM and a 200 Mb hard disk, 9600 modem (I think?).

I actually have two, but the other one never powered on, and its hard disk was dead. Only thing that was good on it was the keyboard, which I swapped onto the working one because less yellowed.

Oh and I had to replace the floppy drive belt, the one I had stretched out.

For me, it depends on how you count dates.

I've got a Mac Quadra 610, released in 1993, and an SGI Indigo2, released in 1992 - except that my Indigo2 is an R10000 IMPACT model, and that's definitely from later than the Quadra.

Both of them work, but the Quadra's case has fallen apart around the guts. The SGI lacks a disk, a situation which should be remedied shortly.

My oldest x86 is an IBM PS/2 Model 30/286, but alas, it has lost a fair bit of its magic smoke allocation and is in *dire* need of repairs.

Oh man, I forgot that I happen to have a PS/2 model 70 386DX, with memory card to get 16MB, motherboard (small type) modded from 16MHz to 20MHz, mostly restored (looks complete from outside currently), what leaves finding SCSI card and SCSI hard drive and modify the power to hook up the standard SCSI hard drive.

I have two working LTE ELITE 4/50E and 4/75CX, needs both belts replaced (floppy W1D).
And non-working LTE LITE 25E

Cheers,

Jed118 wrote on 2020-02-27, 20:42:

Hah I have the LTE 4/25 too! You sure that's a 386? Mine is a 486/25 MHz, the only difference is mine has the integrated trackba […]
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barleyguy wrote on 2020-02-24, 23:39:

My current oldest brand name machine is a Compaq LTE Lite 25 laptop. It's a 386 SX 25 Mhz, 120 MB Hard Drive, 4 MB RAM, and a Page White VGA Black and White display. Completely working, though the battery is really weak as you'd expect. It's currently running DOS 6.2 and Geoworks Ensemble.

Cheers,

Harley.

Hah I have the LTE 4/25 too! You sure that's a 386? Mine is a 486/25 MHz, the only difference is mine has the integrated trackball. I am waiting on God knows what to learn how to 3D print so I can print up two screen latches (BOTH mine broke), otherwise it works just fine. 12 Mb RAM and a 200 Mb hard disk, 9600 modem (I think?).

I actually have two, but the other one never powered on, and its hard disk was dead. Only thing that was good on it was the keyboard, which I swapped onto the working one because less yellowed.

Oh and I had to replace the floppy drive belt, the one I had stretched out.

The "Lite 25" is a 386, the "Lite 4/25" is a 486. I believe they had both options for sale at the same time. Mine is the 386 version.

barleyguy wrote on 2020-02-28, 03:13:

Jed118 wrote on 2020-02-27, 20:42:

Hah I have the LTE 4/25 too! You sure that's a 386? Mine is a 486/25 MHz, the only difference is mine has the integrated trackba […]
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barleyguy wrote on 2020-02-24, 23:39:

My current oldest brand name machine is a Compaq LTE Lite 25 laptop. It's a 386 SX 25 Mhz, 120 MB Hard Drive, 4 MB RAM, and a Page White VGA Black and White display. Completely working, though the battery is really weak as you'd expect. It's currently running DOS 6.2 and Geoworks Ensemble.

Cheers,

Harley.

Hah I have the LTE 4/25 too! You sure that's a 386? Mine is a 486/25 MHz, the only difference is mine has the integrated trackball. I am waiting on God knows what to learn how to 3D print so I can print up two screen latches (BOTH mine broke), otherwise it works just fine. 12 Mb RAM and a 200 Mb hard disk, 9600 modem (I think?).

I actually have two, but the other one never powered on, and its hard disk was dead. Only thing that was good on it was the keyboard, which I swapped onto the working one because less yellowed.

Oh and I had to replace the floppy drive belt, the one I had stretched out.

The "Lite 25" is a 386, the "Lite 4/25" is a 486. I believe they had both options for sale at the same time. Mine is the 386 version.

I missed that yours lacked the 4. My "spare" 4/25 has the same or very similar shell to yours, with a thin (relatively) LCD compared to the one with a built in mouse.

My guess is that yours is a passive lit TFT?

The LTE Lite/25 is a passive matrix display.

The first two members of the Lite series were the Lite/20 and Lite/25 (both grayscale passive matrix without trackball), then the Lite/25E (grayscale active matrix with built-in trackball) and Lite/25C (color active matrix with built-in trackball) were released shortly after. These were all released in 1992, and are 386SL-based machines.

Then in 1993, the 486SL-based variants were introduced. The 4/25, 4/25E, 4/25C and the 4/33C.

My Macintosh 128k was made in 18th week of 1984.

Need to check if my C64 isn't older.