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Reply 360 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-02-29, 20:56:

I don't see a difference.

Thank you, please try again with the attached SIV64X 5.47 Read-01

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red-ray wrote on 2020-02-29, 21:23:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-02-29, 20:56:

I don't see a difference.

Thank you, please try again with the attached SIV64X 5.47 Read-01

Hello, looks better. Temperature for all 64 DIMMs were shown.
But after showing "SPD summary" the program crashed.

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Reply 362 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-02-29, 23:48:

Hello, looks better. Temperature for all 64 DIMMs were shown.

Thank you and I managed to reproduce the [SPD Summary] issue here and should have fixed it by making more buffer space available.

It looks like only channels 0 + 3 are used so I have adjusted the driver to do a 2-way mux meaning there should now only be 9 SMBuses.

Please may I have new save files using the attached SIV64X 5.47 Swap-01 so I can check all is OK, assuming it is I plan to release Beta-01.

The SMBus exclusions got saved to the registry so please do reg delete HKCU\Software\SIV /f /v "SMBus Skip" to delete them as I have added more to the defaults.

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 02:06:
Thank you and I managed to reproduce the [SPD Summary] issue here and should have fixed it by making more buffer space available […]
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Thank you and I managed to reproduce the [SPD Summary] issue here and should have fixed it by making more buffer space available.

It looks like only channels 0 + 3 are used so I have adjusted the driver to do a 2-way mux meaning there should now only be 9 SMBuses.

Please may I have new save files using the attached SIV64X 5.47 Swap-01 so I can check all is OK, assuming it is I plan to release Beta-01.

The SMBus exclusions got saved to the registry so please do reg delete HKCU\Software\SIV /f /v "SMBus Skip" to delete them as I have added more to the defaults.

Thanks for updating.

I made another run, looked quite good, see the main screen.

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So looked right.
But honestly spoken I don't fully trust the temperature values of the DIMMs, that are reported:
I let it open for about 5 minutes, and then I saw some high values of 90°C, other DIMMs had some low values of -128°C, about 20 of the total 64 DIMMs low or high was out of range.
Also I am not convinced, about the CRC errors: It was reported for 4 out of 64 DIMMs.
Unfortunately I have no save local for that run.

I overlooked the reg delete command, so I closed SIV and did the reg delete and restarted SIV.
Now there are no temperatures reported for the DIMMs:

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I attach the save local for the second run.

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Reply 364 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 11:44:

Unfortunately I have no save local for that run.

Thank you for your testing, but looking at the save file from the 2nb run I can't see why there is an issue. Did you run HWiNFO before the 2nd run? Maybe it trigged the issue.

Please do siv64x -dbgsmb -exit=30 > SIV_DBGOUT.log | more and post the .log file. What happens if you power cycle the system and run SIV before HWiNFO?

Basically I need a save file generated when SIV had read the SPD and temperatures.

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 13:55:
Thank you for your testing, but looking at the save file from the 2nb run I can't see why there is an issue. Did you run HWiNFO […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 11:44:

Unfortunately I have no save local for that run.

Thank you for your testing, but looking at the save file from the 2nb run I can't see why there is an issue. Did you run HWiNFO before the 2nd run? Maybe it trigged the issue.

Please do siv64x -dbgsmb -exit=30 > SIV_DBGOUT.log | more and post the .log file. What happens if you power cycle the system and run SIV before HWiNFO?

Basically I need a save file generated when SIV had read the SPD and temperatures.

Nope I did not run hwinfo before SIV. All I did after the first run is deleting something from the registry with the command you posted.

OK, I reboot the machine again, stopped the ILO3 servies (ProliantMonitor) and called from cmd
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Reply 366 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:06:

All I did after the first run is deleting something from the registry with the command you posted.

Thank you for running the test and posting the log file. I think I have worked out the issue, it's a simple off-by-one error, but it only happens with IMC muxing and PCH/ICH muxing is not affected by it. The DL580 G7 is the first system I have implemented IMC muxing for which is why this did not come to light before.

I have adjusted the attached SIV64X 5.47 Swap-01 please will you check how it does?

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:50:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 16:06:

All I did after the first run is deleting something from the registry with the command you posted.

Thank you for running the test and posting the log file. I think I have worked out the issue, it's a simple off-by-one error, but it only happens with IMC muxing and PCH/ICH muxing is not affected by it. The DL580 G7 is the first system I have implemented IMC muxing for which is why this did not come to light before.

I have adjusted the attached SIV64X 5.47 Swap-01 please will you check how it does?

Thx for update, now the main screen is like that, so should be good for a release.

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The range (low and high) of temperatures for some DIMMs is still suspicous (like -256°C), but OK.

save local is attached.

But what about the DIMMs with bad SPD?
I should be able to identify it (with the help of SIV), right?
Do I have any disadvantage from it?
I could easily replace it, because server DD3 RAM 1333 is cheap at ebay.

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Reply 368 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:22:

But what about the DIMMs with bad SPD?
I should be able to identify it (with the help of SIV), right?
Do I have any disadvantage from it?

Thank you for you testing and I will plan to release Beta-01 later this evening. Once I have released it then we can look at the wayward temperatures. Ii would be good to get a screen shot of Menu->Edit->View STC Info with the plots full so I can see how well SIV is working and I wonder how long Menu->Machine->Memory Areas will take on a system with 512GB on memory, on this system using 53.93GB it takes 17.063 seconds for the first run an 4.375 thereafter.

Were it my system I would get such as https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/372968708861 and swap out the ones with bad SPD. The Elpida EBJ81RF4BCFD-DJ-F 0 should be easy to spot, but the others not so. Once I have released Beta-01 if you generate a new save file I will double check the same DIMMs have the issue and try to deduce which slots they are in. What slot if the Elpida in? I suspect Memory Board 1, DIMM 5D.

Reply 369 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:22:

should be good for a release.

I have now released Beta-01 and am wondering if you press [ Zero ] on [ DIMM Status ] how long is it before you get the odd strange temperature please?

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Reply 370 of 1037, by CoffeeOne

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 19:42:
I have now released Beta-01 and am wondering if you press [ Zero ] on [ DIMM Status ] how long is it before you get the odd stra […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 17:22:

should be good for a release.

I have now released Beta-01 and am wondering if you press [ Zero ] on [ DIMM Status ] how long is it before you get the odd strange temperature please?

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OK, I will attach the save local

About DIMM Status, hard to tell, after first zero, there was a -170° after maybe 5 seconds, after again pressing zero after 1 minute, this:

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All 64 cannot be shown in one screen with my setting.

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Reply 371 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 20:11:

All 64 cannot be shown in one screen with my setting.

Yes, that is why there is a scroll bar on the right. The panel is 1008 x 1278 and your screen is only 1920 x 1080 so SIV added the scroll bar.

I am still pondering the strange temperatures, does HWiNFO also get them?

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 21:17:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 20:11:

All 64 cannot be shown in one screen with my setting.

Yes, that is why there is a scroll bar on the right. The panel is 1008 x 1278 and your screen is only 1920 x 1080 so SIV added the scroll bar.

I am still pondering the strange temperatures, does HWiNFO also get them?

hwinfo does not have that issue, see the first 50 dimms:

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Reply 373 of 1037, by CoffeeOne

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-01, 21:17:
CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 20:11:

All 64 cannot be shown in one screen with my setting.

Yes, that is why there is a scroll bar on the right. The panel is 1008 x 1278 and your screen is only 1920 x 1080 so SIV added the scroll bar.

I am still pondering the strange temperatures, does HWiNFO also get them?

Hi Ray,
I hope you can figure out the temperature thing on the DL580 G7

Nevertheless, I switch to an older computer (very nice one of course):
Compaq Proliant ML370 Tower.

I ran the latest beta version, unfortunately I have to stick to the 32 bit version now: :DDD
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So where is the SPD info? Only 4 modules this time.
The type of RAM is not shown.
Also the hardware RAID controller is not supported (not a big surprise though), the disks are on a smart array 431. By the way there are 3 raid controllers in the machine (that makes no sense, but I did not want to throw them away)
Other things missing I have to check out. Where is the graphics card? It's an onboard ATI Rage Pro based one with 4MB, should be pretty standard, shouldn't it?

No crashed and the info on the main page is already nice, maybe you can add the compaq logo on the main page.

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Reply 374 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 19:59:

I hope you can figure out the temperature thing on the DL580 G7

So where is the SPD info? Only 4 modules this time. The type of RAM is not shown.
Where is the graphics card? It's an onboard ATI Rage Pro based one with 4MB, should be pretty standard, shouldn't it?

Thank you for the new post and SIV save files. I have reworked [ DIMM Status ] so all 64 DIMMs should fit on the screen by omitting some of the information that is the same as on [ SPD Summary ], but I am still thinking about the strange values.

The system uses the ServerWorks CNB20-LE PCI to AGP Bridge and we have no information for at all this limits what is possible. The SPD is absent as the ServerWorks OSB4 PCI to ISA Bridge SMBus I/O port is zero (see [ 0 - 15 - 0 ] on [ PCI Bus]). I wonder, is there a BIOS setup option to enable the SMBus? Checking the SIV saves from HP NetServer + Dell 4400/733 they also have the OSB4 with the I/O Port being such as 0x0580.

I have adjusted the attached SIV32L 5.47 Rage-02 such that it should report the ATI Rage 3D IIC PCI [Mach64 GT IIC] clocks, does it please?

I am wondering what machine you will next try SIV on, an Itanium 9300 (Tukwila) would be interesting 😀

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Reply 375 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 21:25:

hwinfo does not have that issue, see the first 50 dimms

Thank you for checking this out and I still can't see why SIV get's the issue and wonder if it's down to timing. SIV does each SMBus transfer with one call into the driver and HWiNFO makes several so maybe SIV is "too fast".

I have made some changes to the attached SIV64X 5.47 Keep-02 that should provide some insight so please may I have a new save file.

It also should reduce the load on the Sensor Thread so could I also have a .PNG screen shot of Menu->Edit->View STC Info. Please use .PNG for screen shots as .JPG ones are relatively fuzzy.

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-02, 22:57:
Thank you for the new post and SIV save files. I have reworked [ DIMM Status ] so all 64 DIMMs should fit on the screen by omitt […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-02, 19:59:

I hope you can figure out the temperature thing on the DL580 G7

So where is the SPD info? Only 4 modules this time. The type of RAM is not shown.
Where is the graphics card? It's an onboard ATI Rage Pro based one with 4MB, should be pretty standard, shouldn't it?

Thank you for the new post and SIV save files. I have reworked [ DIMM Status ] so all 64 DIMMs should fit on the screen by omitting some of the information that is the same as on [ SPD Summary ], but I am still thinking about the strange values.

The system uses the ServerWorks CNB20-LE PCI to AGP Bridge and we have no information for at all this limits what is possible. The SPD is absent as the ServerWorks OSB4 PCI to ISA Bridge SMBus I/O port is zero (see [ 0 - 15 - 0 ] on [ PCI Bus]). I wonder, is there a BIOS setup option to enable the SMBus? Checking the SIV saves from HP NetServer + Dell 4400/733 they also have the OSB4 with the I/O Port being such as 0x0580.

I have adjusted the attached SIV32L 5.47 Rage-02 such that it should report the ATI Rage 3D IIC PCI [Mach64 GT IIC] clocks, does it please?

I am wondering what machine you will next try SIV on, an Itanium 9300 (Tukwila) would be interesting 😀

Hello,

Rage II is listed in GPU info

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But isn't it mentioned normally on the main page, too?

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red-ray wrote on 2020-03-03, 07:53:
Thank you for checking this out and I still can't see why SIV get's the issue and wonder if it's down to timing. SIV does each S […]
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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-01, 21:25:

hwinfo does not have that issue, see the first 50 dimms

Thank you for checking this out and I still can't see why SIV get's the issue and wonder if it's down to timing. SIV does each SMBus transfer with one call into the driver and HWiNFO makes several so maybe SIV is "too fast".

I have made some changes to the attached SIV64X 5.47 Keep-02 that should provide some insight so please may I have a new save file.

It also should reduce the load on the Sensor Thread so could I also have a .PNG screen shot of Menu->Edit->View STC Info. Please use .PNG for screen shots as .JPG ones are relatively fuzzy.

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Reply 378 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-03, 21:08:

Rage II is listed in GPU info, But isn't it mentioned normally on the main page, too?

Thank you for running the test and the GPU names are not listed on the main panel, but if you hover the mouse over the GPU-0 the Tooptip should report it.

Reply 379 of 1037, by red-ray

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CoffeeOne wrote on 2020-03-03, 21:26:

stc info:

Thank you, I can see the Sensor Thread Load is now 57% which is what I was hoping for. Looking in the save file at [ DIMM Status ] then I don't see any wacky temperatures, but SIV had only been running for 28 seconds and done 14 updates. Please will you post a screen shot of [ DIMM Status ] after SIV has been running for at least 5 minutes and the sample counts are >= 150. I don't need a save file.

I am wondering if I need to get SIV to delay for a few ms after switching the SMBus mux so please try the attached SIV64X 5.47 Slug-02 that does this. Again post [ DIMM Status ] after SIV has been running for at lest 5 minutes and then generate a new save file.

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