SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-03-10, 17:29:

Anyone got any advice on how to deal with these bends?

Yeah, use a fine knife like people are telling you, but first go practice on some dead piece of electronics. Let your fingers learn how much pressing is enough, and how much will break things.

pewpewpew wrote on 2020-03-10, 19:18:

SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-03-10, 17:29:

Anyone got any advice on how to deal with these bends?

Yeah, use a fine knife like people are telling you, but first go practice on some dead piece of electronics. Let your fingers learn how much pressing is enough, and how much will break things.

Also, bend it just enough so they don't touch any more. Don't be tempted to completely restore the original position.

pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-03-10, 18:08:

c't RAM Test 5.1 website is in german, is there a website in english?

I'm not aware of any non-German versions of the tool. Interestingly though, the .exe contains all messages in German and in English, but I have no idea if or how the language can be switched.

Didnt want to buy 20 kg. Now I get a single card of these 😀 😀 😀

i get scared every single time you (predator99) post something, I might just see another hidden jewel of a part that I haven't seen in the US for years...

Xicor wrote on 2020-03-10, 19:08:

Seriously, 1200 N.O.S. floppy's will cover my life time needs and some.

Wow, almost enough storage to match a 2GB SD card.

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-03-10, 17:36:

You can use a small, flat tipped (bladed) screwdriver and press the legs to the left (rear of the chip) and to the left (front of the chip) in question. Please be careful with this and the sewing needle method should work as well.

I can't for the life of me figure out how I'm suppose to do separate the legs on these 3DFX chips. I don't have any good exacto-knives on hand so I'm still using a sewing needle.

Do I push it in-between the two legs, or move them from the feet?
Man, I'm surprised there isn't some guide for this out there 😕

Anyone mind giving me some clues?

SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-03-10, 21:50:

I can't for the life of me figure out how I'm suppose to do separate the legs on these 3DFX chips. I don't have any good exacto- […]
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bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-03-10, 17:36:

You can use a small, flat tipped (bladed) screwdriver and press the legs to the left (rear of the chip) and to the left (front of the chip) in question. Please be careful with this and the sewing needle method should work as well.

I can't for the life of me figure out how I'm suppose to do separate the legs on these 3DFX chips. I don't have any good exacto-knives on hand so I'm still using a sewing needle.

Do I push it in-between the two legs, or move them from the feet?
Man, I'm surprised there isn't some guide for this out there 😕

As may have already suggested, try to use a razor blade, or a hobby blade, such as these ones:

Do not push the pins, the best way to clear the short is to slide the razor between them, and gently force the pin to the opposite side of the bend, just fraction of a millimetre.

YYYYYESSSSS!

I managed to get some help from a steady-handed relative and we managed to separate out the shorted legs just enough.
Card seems to work fine now, just waiting for the SLI bridge 😁

(witness my cheap testbench. A unused table in the living room 😜)

SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-03-10, 22:55:

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YYYYYESSSSS!

I managed to get some help from a steady-handed relative and we managed to separate out the shorted legs just enough.
Card seems to work fine now, just waiting for the SLI bridge 😁

(witness my cheap testbench. A unused table in the living room 😜)

Congrats, a voodoo that lives to fight another day.

Heee! 😀

Cheers,

Still need an 775 AGP Board for my E5800 and these DDR1 DIMMS.

For my XP Build I'll use this XFX 7950GT + Core i3-3220

luckybob wrote on 2020-03-10, 20:22:

i get scared every single time you (predator99) post something, I might just see another hidden jewel of a part that I haven't seen in the US for years...

Yes ! His hoarding skills are killing me !

SodaSuccubus wrote on 2020-03-10, 22:55:

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YYYYYESSSSS!

I managed to get some help from a steady-handed relative and we managed to separate out the shorted legs just enough.
Card seems to work fine now, just waiting for the SLI bridge 😁

(witness my cheap testbench. A unused table in the living room 😜)

Great ! A good hobby knife and good magnifier is the best way imho.
Hahaaa my cheap bench (when the real one is full <and usually is>) is the top of the washing machine. Hey it works well and is waist high so easy to do a quick breadboard test of a mobo.

Horun wrote on 2020-03-11, 02:32:

luckybob wrote on 2020-03-10, 20:22:

i get scared every single time you (predator99) post something, I might just see another hidden jewel of a part that I haven't seen in the US for years...

Yes ! His hoarding skills are killing me !

You all would kill me if you saw some of the stuff I have been able to get for cheap. 😁

I just got a TMC AI5TT motherboard with the intel 430TX chipset, along with a pentium MMX 233 and 64mB RAM. All for about $27 shipped. I think the price was fair. Pic here:

However, when I received it, I noticed this strange thing over the CPU (see previous pic). It seems to be the heatsink, but I have no idea if it works better than a regular one or if it came originally with the board (it seems so, since it has holes for the capacitors on both sides) or what. It's a thin sheet of metal with the fan on one side. Anybody knows anything about it? I'm leaving some more pics here:

Thanks!

I've never seen a heatsink like that for desktop computers, rather for laptops at the most. That is one interesting heatsink, though. My guess is the design allows better air flow in case something obstructs it or if a long ISA or PCI card needs to be installed, like a VooDoo2 card, SCSI card, or sound card, and so on, but I digress.

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-03-11, 04:55:

I've never seen a heatsink like that for desktop computers, rather for laptops at the most. That is one interesting heatsink, though. My guess is the design allows better air flow in case something obstructs it or if a long ISA or PCI card needs to be installed, like a VooDoo2 card, SCSI card, or sound card, and so on, but I digress.

Good guess, in fact it seems to be made to allow using full-size PCI cards, however since I'm not gonna use any with this motherboard, I ordered a regulat heatsink with fan on top, because I trust them more (used them since many years ago) and also because when I tested the board, I noticed the part of the heatsink over the CPU was very hot, whereas the part over the fan was not. Also, the fan is so thin (it's a 40x40x6mm one) and you can barely feel it moves the air. That seems to suggest the heatsink is not that good at dissipating heat, so I'd rather not risk the CPU.

Good choice.

Predator99 wrote on 2020-03-10, 20:17:

Didnt want to buy 20 kg. Now I get a single card of these 😀 😀 😀

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The Ensoniq card? Amazing find.