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First post, by RiP

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Is it possible to rework this clock chip?

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Reply 1 of 6, by mdog69

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No point reworking it - it doesn't have an RTC.
That module contains a DS1218 (which handles the switching between the external 5V supply and the on board battery, and blocks the write enable signal to the RAM when the 5V rail starts to fail.)

Either replace with any other 2Kx8 non-volatile SRAM or roll your own module.

The DS1218 can be replaced by any other device (or devices) with the same functions.

Personally I'd probably go for a low power 6116, and then bend up the 5V pin and parallel feed it with 5V (either from the ic socket or a flying lead from elsewhere on the PCB)via a diode, and 3V from a battery, again via a diode.
Downside of that approach is the danger of data corruption if a stray write pulse occurs when the system powers up/down.

Reply 2 of 6, by Horun

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RiP wrote on 2020-03-27, 16:34:
Is it possible to rework this clock chip? […]
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Is it possible to rework this clock chip?

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I think so but have yet to figure out how. From the Datasheet of DS1220Y "The DS1220Y 16k Nonvolatile SRAM is a 16,384-bit, fully static, nonvolatile RAM organized as 2048 words by 8 bits. Each NV SRAM has a self-contained lithium energy source and control circuitry that constantly monitor VCC for an out-of-tolerance condition. "
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/256/DS1220Y-263832.pdf
Being unavailable (like a DS1587s) think there must be a way to add external batts, have done it with a 1587. Unlike most Dallas chips with onboard battery, yours does not have blank (or NC) pins so figuring out how or where to add an ext. batt will be a bit more complicated. Maybe some one else has already figured it out but would suggest you wait on trying to mod it until brighter minds come to a consensus. Yes it is fixable !

added: sorry mdog69, but the DS1220y is different than the DS1218.

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Reply 3 of 6, by RiP

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Horun wrote on 2020-03-28, 01:59:
I think so but have yet to figure out how. From the Datasheet of DS1220Y "The DS1220Y 16k Nonvolatile SRAM is a 16,384-bit, full […]
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RiP wrote on 2020-03-27, 16:34:
Is it possible to rework this clock chip? […]
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Is it possible to rework this clock chip?

fVKo9n7.jpg

I think so but have yet to figure out how. From the Datasheet of DS1220Y "The DS1220Y 16k Nonvolatile SRAM is a 16,384-bit, fully static, nonvolatile RAM organized as 2048 words by 8 bits. Each NV SRAM has a self-contained lithium energy source and control circuitry that constantly monitor VCC for an out-of-tolerance condition. "
https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/256/DS1220Y-263832.pdf
Being unavailable (like a DS1587s) think there must be a way to add external batts, have done it with a 1587. Unlike most Dallas chips with onboard battery, yours does not have blank (or NC) pins so figuring out how or where to add an ext. batt will be a bit more complicated. Maybe some one else has already figured it out but would suggest you wait on trying to mod it until brighter minds come to a consensus. Yes it is fixable !

added: sorry mdog69, but the DS1220y is different than the DS1218.

Thanks, fingers crossed...
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Reply 4 of 6, by Major Jackyl

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Coming out of the dead here, but feels appropriate, as I have a similar issue/question.

Bluntly: has anyone opened one and located the other parts? I'd like to know where the battery is and if my thinking is right.

I looked up the datasheet for the 1220Y and at first it looked like I was SOL, until I looked up the 1218

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There is pin 7 on that that is Vbat. So if I sever that and put my 2032 right there, I should effectively have "replaced" the battery, correct?

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The material this chip is made of is far different from the DS12B887 I'm more familiar with. I haven't ever seen a 1220Y until I've seen this one. It's out of a SCSI 5-disk MO changer.

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The 1218 looks like it's just floating there in a pool of a rubbery-looking resin. With my engraver, I could tunnel in there and tap onto the leg. It just looks so sh*tty to deal with.

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Reply 5 of 6, by Major Jackyl

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Well, I did the thing, but won't be able to test for a while. VBat (pin 7) for 1218 was cut and Bat+ attached. Bat- on the Gnd of 1220.

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Reply 6 of 6, by Horun

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Good Work !

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