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Reply 60 of 93, by imi

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schmatzler wrote on 2020-05-13, 17:03:
FTP is a pretty shitty protocol imho. It's hard to implement this in a secure way because of all the port shenanigans and as soo […]
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imi wrote on 2020-05-13, 01:17:

why are they removing FTP support? what has it been replaced with?

FTP is a pretty shitty protocol imho. It's hard to implement this in a secure way because of all the port shenanigans and as soon as you run an FTP server you will get hammered with requests from idiots trying to get in and take control of it. It also lacks in speed when transferring a multitude of small files.

There are much better protocols for file transfers like rsync, SFTP or in some cases even WebDAV.
Simple serving of files can be done over HTTPS and if you need a good file index, install a tool like h5ai on your webserver. Done.

There really is no need for browsers to still support FTP. Let it die already.

so SFTP is still supported? I thought they meant removing FTP support altogether.

"install a tool like xyz on your webserver" well... but those are not my webservers are they, so unless everyone does that, FTP was really useful.

so the bottom line is still the same, it's being phased out without there being a replacement?

we all know webdesigners nowadays can't create usable sites, let alone good file indexes, and downloading is always a hassle with multiple popups and captchas and the like.

this ain't fun.

Reply 61 of 93, by digger

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imi wrote on 2020-05-13, 18:32:
schmatzler wrote on 2020-05-13, 17:03:
FTP is a pretty shitty protocol imho. It's hard to implement this in a secure way because of all the port shenanigans and as soo […]
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imi wrote on 2020-05-13, 01:17:

why are they removing FTP support? what has it been replaced with?

FTP is a pretty shitty protocol imho. It's hard to implement this in a secure way because of all the port shenanigans and as soon as you run an FTP server you will get hammered with requests from idiots trying to get in and take control of it. It also lacks in speed when transferring a multitude of small files.

There are much better protocols for file transfers like rsync, SFTP or in some cases even WebDAV.
Simple serving of files can be done over HTTPS and if you need a good file index, install a tool like h5ai on your webserver. Done.

There really is no need for browsers to still support FTP. Let it die already.

so SFTP is still supported? I thought they meant removing FTP support altogether.

"install a tool like xyz on your webserver" well... but those are not my webservers are they, so unless everyone does that, FTP was really useful.

To be clear, this is just about removing FTP support from web browsers, not the deprecation of the standard in general. FTP won't be obsolete as long people and organizations are still using it. Good point about SFTP, however. As far as I understand it, the major popular web browsers never did support SFTP, at least not without a plugin/extension/add-on. (Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.) But again, there will still be dedicated download and file transfer tools for both FTP and SFTP. Those aren't going anywhere. Unless I misunderstood your point here?

so the bottom line is still the same, it's being phased out without there being a replacement?

Well, WebDAV was mentioned earlier, and that seems like a good contender, especially when its running over SSL/TLS/HTTPS. Basically its an extension of (or a layer on top of) HTTP(S). Why reinvent the wheel from scratch? 🙂

we all know webdesigners nowadays can't create usable sites, let alone good file indexes, and downloading is always a hassle with multiple popups and captchas and the like.

Well, that's subjective, plus it differs per site. WebDAV might be a good alternative here. But like with FTP, we can't force organizations to use (or keep using) such technologies on their public servers.

this ain't fun.

Well, times change, and progress sometimes makes us leave behind certain creature comforts. What can you do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What really ain't fun is the possible permanent historic loss of certain legacy and vintage tools and drivers. 😢 So I guess it's even more important that our "FTP clients go BRRR" as much as possible. The community needs to quickly back up every public site (not just FTP) containing old software, before it's gone forever.

Reply 62 of 93, by EvieSigma

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-13, 04:47:
Check out the marketing specification sheets. That should help: PCG-K15 https://www.manualslib.com/manual/233739/Sony … -Marketi […]
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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-05-13, 03:05:
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-13, 02:48:

Ok, I'm copying the ftp backup to an external drive and then I'll set up my ftp with that drive. External drive is only USB 2.0 so it is going to take a while. I won't get to put it up until tomorrow.

The ftp is not really organized by model number. They had it more set up to have the files in folders based on what kind of driver they were. However, there is an "Original" folder on there that has some driver packs for different models although I didn't specifically see any that were for the exact models you are looking for.

Hmm, that's an annoying setup. Well I'll look around and try to see if I can find the hardware for those machines to get drivers. The R505GL just needs networking drivers at this point but the K15 needs everything.

Check out the marketing specification sheets. That should help:
PCG-K15
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/233739/Sony … -Marketing.html

PCG-R505GL
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/233914/Sony … Pcg-R505gl.html

Thanks, I bookmarked those sheets for later!

I love how thanks to not being able to see into the future those maximum RAM amounts listed are always wrong. My R505GL is humming along beautifully with 640MB and I bet the K15 supports 2GB of DDR.

Reply 63 of 93, by imi

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digger wrote on 2020-05-13, 19:10:

Well, times change, and progress sometimes makes us leave behind certain creature comforts. What can you do? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

complain about it on the internet of course! 😁

Reply 64 of 93, by cyclone3d

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Ok, got the ftp set up with the Sony ftp backup:
ftp://windows98se.ddns.net

Eventually I will have a real ftp server set up and not have to swap around disks for different things.

If the ftp is not working, either post in this thread or send me a PM.

Edit: 10-22-2020 updated the ftp address.
You will need an ftp client such as Filezilla to connect.

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Reply 66 of 93, by cyclone3d

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imi wrote on 2020-05-15, 09:58:

I wish sony had sorted their downloads by device, and not by category x3

wanted to snatch drivers for my old VAIO, but I have no idea what I'm looking for x3

I am pretty sure the reason they didn't sort them by device is because that would have taken up a ton of extra space since the models released around the same time use the same drivers for the most part.

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Reply 67 of 93, by variable

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-13, 18:15:
variable wrote on 2020-04-03, 07:14:

Hi, I'm after some drivers etc. for my Vaio Picturebook PCG-C1XA and was excited to see this archived. I'm having some issues with the torrent though, it's only showing 17 parts rather than the 106 in the file listing. Not sure what's up, I've tried a different torrent client/re-adding/re-downloading etc but no luck so far.

I'll check and see if I have the original restore CDs for the C1XA when I get home tonight. I know I have a couple different restore packs for the C1 series but not sure of the exact ones. In any case, I'll image the rest of the Sony stuff I have and put it up on archive.org.

That would be really awesome, thanks so much! I'll have a rifle through your ftp backup but having an image of the actual discs would be killer

Reply 68 of 93, by cyclone3d

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variable wrote on 2020-05-26, 01:56:
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-13, 18:15:
variable wrote on 2020-04-03, 07:14:

Hi, I'm after some drivers etc. for my Vaio Picturebook PCG-C1XA and was excited to see this archived. I'm having some issues with the torrent though, it's only showing 17 parts rather than the 106 in the file listing. Not sure what's up, I've tried a different torrent client/re-adding/re-downloading etc but no luck so far.

I'll check and see if I have the original restore CDs for the C1XA when I get home tonight. I know I have a couple different restore packs for the C1 series but not sure of the exact ones. In any case, I'll image the rest of the Sony stuff I have and put it up on archive.org.

That would be really awesome, thanks so much! I'll have a rifle through your ftp backup but having an image of the actual discs would be killer

I do have the PCG-C1X restore CDs. The regular C1X came with a 266Mhz CPU and the C1XA came with a Pentium II 400Mhz. I wonder if the restore discs would be the same?

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Reply 69 of 93, by variable

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-26, 05:01:
variable wrote on 2020-05-26, 01:56:
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-05-13, 18:15:

I'll check and see if I have the original restore CDs for the C1XA when I get home tonight. I know I have a couple different restore packs for the C1 series but not sure of the exact ones. In any case, I'll image the rest of the Sony stuff I have and put it up on archive.org.

That would be really awesome, thanks so much! I'll have a rifle through your ftp backup but having an image of the actual discs would be killer

I do have the PCG-C1X restore CDs. The regular C1X came with a 266Mhz CPU and the C1XA came with a Pentium II 400Mhz. I wonder if the restore discs would be the same?

I think it should probably be ok - if you find it I'd really appreciate an upload! I've managed to get images of the restore discs for the C1-XE off someone but it's no good as it's for Japanese Win98 🙁 I've also managed to cobble together most of the essential drivers from various places online but I still can't get the jogwheel, capture button or batteryscope working properly (I'm using the exe's and drivers for another model with some limited success).

When I first got the C1-XA it was all working fine so I removed the hdd to do a backup and managed to corrupt it with a flaky cable. Pain.

Reply 70 of 93, by marxveix

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I would like to download this driver:
https://www.sony.jp/support/vaio/download/W-D08-U07-0.html
http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/vaio/download/ … ATI_5401T02.exe

I hope i do not need to download this big archive with limited internet speed and space,Thank you.

Reply 71 of 93, by Jorpho

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marxveix wrote on 2020-10-22, 20:21:
I would like to download this driver: https://www.sony.jp/support/vaio/download/W-D08-U07-0.html http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/ […]
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I would like to download this driver:
https://www.sony.jp/support/vaio/download/W-D08-U07-0.html
http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/vaio/download/ … ATI_5401T02.exe

I hope i do not need to download this big archive with limited internet speed and space,Thank you.

The link on https://archive.org/details/ftp.vaio-link.com directs to Re: Sony ending downloads for anything prior to Windows 7 , and that links to ftp://windows98se.ddns.net/ , which was just updated today.

ETA: Also you posted already in Re: Proprietary 3D API's . Please don't post the same question in multiple threads.

Reply 72 of 93, by cyclone3d

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Jorpho wrote on 2020-10-22, 21:35:
marxveix wrote on 2020-10-22, 20:21:
I would like to download this driver: https://www.sony.jp/support/vaio/download/W-D08-U07-0.html http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/ […]
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I would like to download this driver:
https://www.sony.jp/support/vaio/download/W-D08-U07-0.html
http://dlv.update.sony.net/pub/vaio/download/ … ATI_5401T02.exe

I hope i do not need to download this big archive with limited internet speed and space,Thank you.

The link on https://archive.org/details/ftp.vaio-link.com directs to Re: Sony ending downloads for anything prior to Windows 7 , and that links to ftp://windows98se.ddns.net/ , which was just updated today.

ETA: Also you posted already in Re: Proprietary 3D API's . Please don't post the same question in multiple threads.

I just updated the archive.org page to point to the vogons thread and didn't notice that it was being asked about till yesterday.

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Reply 74 of 93, by cyclone3d

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nelupadinu wrote on 2020-11-09, 18:31:

Hello is the Ftp still on? i cannot connect with filezilla.

Try it now. I had to restart the ftp server.

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Reply 75 of 93, by nelupadinu

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cyclone3d wrote on 2020-11-09, 18:47:
nelupadinu wrote on 2020-11-09, 18:31:

Hello is the Ftp still on? i cannot connect with filezilla.

Try it now. I had to restart the ftp server.

It's working now. Thank you !

Reply 77 of 93, by cyclone3d

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aaronduce wrote on 2020-11-14, 20:34:

Hey, I am finding the ftp not reliable enough to create a full archive.

Are you able to create a torrent locally using qbittorrent and send a magnet? I can seed if it helps.

Bleh... that is what I get for using my router's built in FTP server.

I have the whole ftp uploaded to archive.org so you can download from there if you want:
https://archive.org/details/ftp.vaio-link.com

Just click on the Show Files link on the right and you can download the zipped up files one at a time.

You are looking at around 460GB to download before you extract.

If that doesn't work for you, it will just have to wait until I have my real FTP server set up which might be a while.

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Reply 79 of 93, by CoNiks

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Hi, How can I connect to ftp server? I will connect to ftp server for the first time, I don't know how to do it. I downloaded filezilla. I have two vaios and I need to find programs such as control center, I would be glad if you could help.