The creative T20/T40 series actually sound very good, and look good too. It really comes down to how much you want to spend, you can pay hundreds or thousands for audiophile grade equipment.

Some good quality studio monitors might be an option, for 100-300$ a pair or so . A musical instruments store or computer/audio place would be an option .

Something like these, maybe . Well regarded, but not very base heavy, if that is your thing .
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info. … &item_id=083130

Or maybe these
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info. … &item_id=120037

Full disclosure: I have not tried them, but I have considered getting a pair . Not an endorsement of the store either. I suggest you check something like https://www.resellerratings.com/ before choosing any store .

Do you want retro aesthetic or are you happy with anything?

For beige styles you might try to find a Cambridge Soundworks 4.1 system, AppleDesign M6082 with sub, or the Roland MA-12C's (often referred to these days as "The LGR speakers"). [edit] Also Altec Lansing models ike the AVS300.

For modern options, some bookshelf speakers or entry level studio monitors as mentioned above (which the Roland MA-12C's basically are too). I have an old pair of Behringer Truths which I don't have in service on my PC, but would pair wonderfully with all my MIDI modules if I had the desk space.

pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-06-18, 00:41:

Without taking up tons of space, and hard of hearing does not allow me to pick good one without your help. Natural sounds I hear […]
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Without taking up tons of space, and hard of hearing does not allow me to pick good one without your help.
Natural sounds I heard like at musical threatre I really enjoyed that much before but with speakers I had before did not reproduce too well.

Not the the logitech, creative models for example.

Thanks all.

Cheers,

Oh well, I have little experience with consumer class speakers. My father had a vintage amplifier, though, with ribbon tweeters for the highs (right English term ?).
Personally, I simply had these heavy beige computer speakers below my 286 PC's wooden table. Their bass was quite nice.
Years later, I had lightweight black speakers with 3D effect and a battery holder. I used to play Mission Supernova with them, I remember. ^^
Anyway, I used headphones mainly. Sennheiser HD424, AKG Monitor K141, Sennheiser HD600..

that it, book case speaker size, was trying to find right term for these.

Thanks, yes modern, and good one that does not break the bank at first.

Any advices on good amp or these has them built in? Otherwise amp that works well go with these as I'm still uninformed about these?

Cheers,

pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-06-19, 01:16:

that it, book case speaker size, was trying to find right term for these. […]
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that it, book case speaker size, was trying to find right term for these.

Thanks, yes modern, and good one that does not break the bank at first.

Any advices on good amp or these has them built in? Otherwise amp that works well go with these as I'm still uninformed about these?

Cheers,

Studio monitors are typically pre-amplified . Bookshelf speaker typically require an amplifier, but there are bookshelf-like speakers with integrated amplifiers .
My understanding is that studio monitors are aimed more at audio professionals and tend to have a more neutral response curve . Size-wise, most studio monitors are pretty similar to bookshelf speakers and should be considered as an option, IMHO .

Add 'active' or 'powered' to your search for speakers with integrated amp.

I have a pair of these on my TV unit: https://www.amazon.com.au/Edifier-R1280DB-Blu … s/dp/B0719C132V

Price is good, sound is decent, connectivity options are great. The biggest drawback is the horrific slimline remote. If you have the speakers in reach on your desktop (where you can access the controls on the side of the right hand speaker), or you can use a universal remote, this problem doesn't matter.

Pierre32 wrote on 2020-06-19, 02:42:

Add 'active' or 'powered' to your search for speakers with integrated amp.

I have a pair of these on my TV unit: https://www.amazon.com.au/Edifier-R1280DB-Blu … s/dp/B0719C132V

Price is good, sound is decent, connectivity options are great. The biggest drawback is the horrific slimline remote. If you have the speakers in reach on your desktop (where you can access the controls on the side of the right hand speaker), or you can use a universal remote, this problem doesn't matter.

I remember hearing good things about Edifier stuff. I can't remember when or what exactly, though .

+1 for studio monitors, even entry level models of a descent brand are an excellent solution. Make sure to get something with volume control at the front and optionally a handy aux input
Some come in really convenient sizes and perform way better than you can imagine. These for example are ~14x20x21 cm and come at a very good price for what they deliver
https://www.thomann.de/gb/m_audio_av42.htm?si … 6b311c5db195baf

Small speakers will never sound very good, it’s physically impossible (low frequencies have long wavelengths). If you have a moderate budget and want a very good sound, I can recommend JBL LSR305 mk2 (their only downside for the price is that they’re rather hissy). If they’re too large, look at iLoud Micro Monitors, they’re amazing for the size.

ShovelKnight wrote on 2020-06-19, 12:22:

Small speakers will never sound very good, it’s physically impossible (low frequencies have long wavelengths). If you have a moderate budget and want a very good sound, I can recommend JBL LSR305 mk2 (their only downside for the price is that they’re rather hissy). If they’re too large, look at iLoud Micro Monitors, they’re amazing for the size.

The JBL 305 are the all time classic model of studio monitors, among the best in their price range indeed! I'd add the Presonus Eris E5 in this category.
When using monitors as computer speakers though one must pay attention to other details so that he won't regret the purchase despite getting excellent sound. Just to name a few, non entry-level monitors don't have volume control at the front (some don't have at all), some don't have unbalanced inputs, the size as they can easily fill half of a small desk and finally placement which is really important and often neglected: studio monitors aren't made to fill an area, they need to point to your ears to get the full out of them. So that's why I often recommend entry-level monitors to be used as computer speakers, eg. the Presonus Eris E3.5, especially since most people can happily listen to 128kbps youtube. They are still better than any "2 x 5W cones + 1000W subwoofer" that make explosions impressive but destroy music.

darry wrote on 2020-06-19, 03:55:

Pierre32 wrote on 2020-06-19, 02:42:

Add 'active' or 'powered' to your search for speakers with integrated amp.

I have a pair of these on my TV unit: https://www.amazon.com.au/Edifier-R1280DB-Blu … s/dp/B0719C132V

Price is good, sound is decent, connectivity options are great. The biggest drawback is the horrific slimline remote. If you have the speakers in reach on your desktop (where you can access the controls on the side of the right hand speaker), or you can use a universal remote, this problem doesn't matter.

I remember hearing good things about Edifier stuff. I can't remember when or what exactly, though .

Got me some Edifiers similar to those, has bluetooth and sound great with my retro pc's.

konc wrote on 2020-06-19, 12:41:

When using monitors as computer speakers though one must pay attention to other details so that he won't regret the purchase despite getting excellent sound. Just to name a few, non entry-level monitors don't have volume control at the front (some don't have at all), some don't have unbalanced inputs, the size as they can easily fill half of a small desk and finally placement which is really important and often neglected: studio monitors aren't made to fill an area, they need to point to your ears to get the full out of them. So that's why I often recommend entry-level monitors to be used as computer speakers, eg. the Presonus Eris E3.5, especially since most people can happily listen to 128kbps youtube. They are still better than any "2 x 5W cones + 1000W subwoofer" that make explosions impressive but destroy music.

Yes, I didn't think about the volume control arrangement. It's an important ergonomic aspect of the design. I have quite a lot of both passive and active preamps at my disposal so I tend to overlook these things.