chublord wrote on 2020-07-10, 20:04:

I have Whiplash working in the standard software mode but it won't run using the 3dfx patch. I get a black screen and the comput […]
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I have Whiplash working in the standard software mode but it won't run using the 3dfx patch. I get a black screen and the computer is frozen.

Any tricks getting old dos games to work with these 3dfx / glide patches? Any special drivers that are needed?

In the Device Manager I do show "Voodoo Graphics 3D Accelerator" under Sound, Video, and game controllers. It's a Diamond 3D card.

This is what the card looks like:

Running Windows 98 SE, 486 DX4-100 system, 256KB L2, 80 MB ram.

Are you using stock Voodoo reference drivers, the Diamond drivers or something else ?

EDIT: Have you tried other 3D accelerated software ?

I can't remember if whiplash is a dos or windows executable, it may need the .ovl file from the diamond drivers to work with the 3dfx patch.

Where do I put the .ovl file? Same directory as the game .exe? It's a native dos executable.

I just tried the Monster 3D drivers and same problem. The 3d test utility that comes with the Monster driver worked.

chublord wrote on 2020-07-10, 23:14:

Where do I put the .ovl file? Same directory as the game .exe? It's a native dos executable.

I just tried the Monster 3D drivers and same problem. The 3d test utility that comes with the Monster driver worked.

Just in the same directory as the game exe, Although reading your post again The game does have bug that causes lockups in high res mode, there should be patches to fix this though.
Patches were included in some of the CD releases, that could be your problem rather than the 3dfx drivers.

Okay, thanks for the tip. Can you clarify the bug you are referring to? Is it only in Glide mode or also in software mode?

Update: I was able to run GLQuake today and got the 3dfx logo and all that. So must be something specific to Whiplash.

chublord wrote on 2020-07-11, 16:27:

Okay, thanks for the tip. Can you clarify the bug you are referring to? Is it only in Glide mode or also in software mode?

I'd have to dig out the readme again, it's related to an intro video that plays in a high res mode that causes a lockup, there's two patches to address it, if i can find and test I'll post back, it's 3am here now and I'm trying to fix a bug with DOOM Eternal(stuck at 60FPS no matter what i set, annoying!) so will probably be some time tomorrow before i get round to it.

Exciting news! I got it to work, although it's intermittent for some reason (sometimes it will load and sometimes not). But FPS is at least double compared to software render, even at the SVGA resolution.

It looks like it needs to be run with a parameter for resolution (for example, 3dwhip.exe /fx480)

From the readme:

1This patch will fix the lock up that has occured when specific older video
2drivers were used.  This patch disables the Hi-res mode that causes this
3lock up.
4
5If the Wpatch1 file does not work, try the Wpatch2 file.  Wpatch2 disables 
6the high-res Interplay logo that has been identified to cause problems with 
7Certain video cards.   
8
9Enjoy...

Awesome you got it working so probably not this problem

Patch attached if you want to try it out. I've not tried personally but they're from my whiplash CD

Still working on this. Thanks for the patch -- I assume this would only be for the software renderer (not 3dfx)?

Seems like the game works consistently when I run it from Windows. Often it will not load when I restart to command prompt. What gives? The game runs much better when rebooting into DOS mode without Windows in the background.

chublord wrote on 2020-07-10, 20:04:

I have Whiplash working in the standard software mode but it won't run using the 3dfx patch. I get a black screen and the comput […]
Show full quote

I have Whiplash working in the standard software mode but it won't run using the 3dfx patch. I get a black screen and the computer is frozen.

Any tricks getting old dos games to work with these 3dfx / glide patches? Any special drivers that are needed?

In the Device Manager I do show "Voodoo Graphics 3D Accelerator" under Sound, Video, and game controllers. It's a Diamond 3D card.

This is what the card looks like:

Running Windows 98 SE, 486 DX4-100 system, 256KB L2, 80 MB ram.

This issue has been bugging me for months and today I finally found my solution for it. I've been trying to run this on a voodoo2 with a C3 Nehemiah. I've been having the Magenta issue with hires mode or the blank screen /freeze with the 3DFX patches. Using Setmul to reduce the CPU clock as low as possible, was all I needed to get the voodoo executables to work (this is while using batch env fixes for Voodoo2). The only problem I have now is some minor screen alignment issues 😀