Cyrix200+ wrote on 2020-09-09, 11:37:

Caps look ok, no? /s

Yes, absolutely perfect. Definitely nothing wrong with them. Not a single one of them is bulged or leaking. Just non-bulging electrolytic perfection.

appiah4 wrote on 2020-09-09, 12:15:

I would be very surprised to find any Slot-A/Socket-A boards with healthy caps to be honest..

They do exist, especially slot A, mostly Asus and MSI. Socket 462 with good capacitors is a bit harder to find. Most 'pretty good' S462 boards have a mix of Japanese capacitors around CPU socket and Teapo (sometimes good), OST, G-Luxon, GSC or Chhsi (high fail rate) for less demanding applications on the board.

Question I would like to ask: do Abit motherboards with good capacitors even exist?

Here are a few things I have picked up recently.
Suntac 286-20 motherboard. Plan on upgrading this to a 25Mhz CPU which I already have.

Ensoniq VIVO sound card. Only got this because of the disks and manuals.

Promise S150 TX4 PCI SATA controller

And some more:
SIIG CL 5464 PCI video card - Cirrus Logic's foray into the 3d accelerator market... with 4MB RDRAM - also have the APG and PCI newer revision (5465) cards on the way - both 4MB

ATI Mach64 ISA

A Phillips TV Tuner card 😉

GUS pnp Pro

Yamaha SW1000XG with the PLG100-DX board

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-09-10, 00:13:

And some more: SIIG CL 5464 PCI video card - Cirrus Logic's foray into the 3d accelerator market... with 4MB RDRAM - also have t […]
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And some more:
SIIG CL 5464 PCI video card - Cirrus Logic's foray into the 3d accelerator market... with 4MB RDRAM - also have the APG and PCI newer revision (5465) cards on the way - both 4MB
SIIG-CL5464.jpg

ATI Mach64 ISA
Mach64-ISA.jpg

A Phillips TV Tuner card 😉
v3-3500tv.jpg

GUS pnp Pro
GUS-PNP-Pro.jpg

Yamaha SW1000XG with the PLG100-DX board
SW1000XG-PLG100-DX.jpg

Jealous of that SW1000XG . It's really a shame Yamaha never developed 64-bit drivers drivers for it .

Jelly of the GUS card.

My new old AX7 next to what I've been using.

I bought one of those back in 2002 to keep my overclocked Thunderbird 1333 cool . Well more than enough to keep my XP 2400+ running at 3200+ speed cool.

Guessing the bigger the heatsink the better the cooling or the exact opposite?

The smaller one has thin fins so it wouldn't surprise me if it cools better. The big one has a thicker base so it will probably take longer to heat up and the temps will probably stay more steady but the CPU will probably run hotter overall.

darry wrote on 2020-09-10, 00:57:

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-09-10, 00:13:

And some more: SIIG CL 5464 PCI video card - Cirrus Logic's foray into the 3d accelerator market... with 4MB RDRAM - also have t […]
Show full quote

And some more:
SIIG CL 5464 PCI video card - Cirrus Logic's foray into the 3d accelerator market... with 4MB RDRAM - also have the APG and PCI newer revision (5465) cards on the way - both 4MB
SIIG-CL5464.jpg

ATI Mach64 ISA
Mach64-ISA.jpg

A Phillips TV Tuner card 😉
v3-3500tv.jpg

GUS pnp Pro
GUS-PNP-Pro.jpg

Yamaha SW1000XG with the PLG100-DX board
SW1000XG-PLG100-DX.jpg

Jealous of that SW1000XG . It's really a shame Yamaha never developed 64-bit drivers drivers for it .

I actually only got that card because of the PLG100-DX. The SW1000XG and the PLG100-DX put together cost me about half of what the PLG150-DX normally goes for. Not sure about going prices for the PLG100-DX as I wasn't able to find any sold listings. This is my 3rd SW1000XG.

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-09-10, 01:45:

Jelly of the GUS card.

This one was sold as-is. Seller said nothing but the Midi music part works... the card being broken makes no sense if that works. My bet is that somebody used the tools that allow you to disable stuff and was using only the Midi part along with another card..... did a bit of research before I bought it. Still have to test it and see if I can re-enable the other functions thought is a very cool idea to only have the Midi part working for games that directly support it.

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-09-10, 02:44:

Guessing the bigger the heatsink the better the cooling or the exact opposite?

Socket A setups were a time of large and heavy heatsinks as we all spent the money we saved by not buying an Intel on various ways of cooling our hot CPUs (and replacing them if we crunched the core when mounting the heatsink, etc.), and power supplies that could deliver the amps for those power hungry beasts. The Thermalright AX7 was one of the top heatsinks at the time, but it was outclassed by the more expensive all copper high end offerings from Thermalright such as the SLK800 and 900.

Not sure if it counts as "retro" - as it's a "modern" part going into one of my Retro Laptops (to test out an idea I have), but I bought one of those $10 mSATA to 44PIN IDE converters on E-bay and I'm going to try a 128GB SSD out of a Dell loaded with FreeDOS and MaxBlast DDO (that DDO Works on anything I swear). I think I'll also try version 1.3 of FreeDOS too.

If I like it in the NEC Versa M/75 my 486 DX4-100 Desktop + the Versa 40EC will be getting them as well.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2020-09-10, 04:11:

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-09-10, 02:44:

Guessing the bigger the heatsink the better the cooling or the exact opposite?

Socket A setups were a time of large and heavy heatsinks as we all spent the money we saved by not buying an Intel on various ways of cooling our hot CPUs (and replacing them if we crunched the core when mounting the heatsink, etc.), and power supplies that could deliver the amps for those power hungry beasts. The Thermalright AX7 was one of the top heatsinks at the time, but it was outclassed by the more expensive all copper high end offerings from Thermalright such as the SLK800 and 900.

Tbh, cheap brute force frequently worked just as well. I fondly remember CoolerMaster/EverCool aluminium sinks with tapering design, the bottom fitting neatly onto the socket and the top flaring out to 80mm wide, supporting a big 80mm fan. They were dirt cheap (< EUR 25, possibly < EUR 20), cooled well enough to tame a Thunderbird 1400 or Barton 3200+ and because of the relatively simple design didn't crunch cores as much as more complex ones, fit into most cases and provided enough clearance for (and secondary airflow to) VRM components around the socket.

dionb wrote on 2020-09-10, 07:22:

Repo Man11 wrote on 2020-09-10, 04:11:

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-09-10, 02:44:

Guessing the bigger the heatsink the better the cooling or the exact opposite?

Socket A setups were a time of large and heavy heatsinks as we all spent the money we saved by not buying an Intel on various ways of cooling our hot CPUs (and replacing them if we crunched the core when mounting the heatsink, etc.), and power supplies that could deliver the amps for those power hungry beasts. The Thermalright AX7 was one of the top heatsinks at the time, but it was outclassed by the more expensive all copper high end offerings from Thermalright such as the SLK800 and 900.

Tbh, cheap brute force frequently worked just as well. I fondly remember CoolerMaster/EverCool aluminium sinks with tapering design, the bottom fitting neatly onto the socket and the top flaring out to 80mm wide, supporting a big 80mm fan. They were dirt cheap (< EUR 25, possibly < EUR 20), cooled well enough to tame a Thunderbird 1400 or Barton 3200+ and because of the relatively simple design didn't crunch cores as much as more complex ones, fit into most cases and provided enough clearance for (and secondary airflow to) VRM components around the socket.

These were also what I used from Palomino 1800+ all the way up to barton 2800+ but man were they obnoxiously LOUD..

This.

Re: Year 2003 Athlon XP Build - CoolerMaster Wave Master *Photo Heavy*

kolderman wrote on 2020-09-10, 08:03:

This.

Re: Year 2003 Athlon XP Build - CoolerMaster Wave Master *Photo Heavy*

Whoa, that's a monster.

No, I was talking much simpler design:

I definitely wasn't recommending it, I was responding to the LOUD comment 🤣

Yeah I remember the ThermalRight SLK series being the cooler to have in the nForce2 era, but I had one of the cheap CoolerMaster 80mm deals.

SpectriaForce wrote on 2020-09-09, 23:18:

appiah4 wrote on 2020-09-09, 12:15:

I would be very surprised to find any Slot-A/Socket-A boards with healthy caps to be honest..

Question I would like to ask: do Abit motherboards with good capacitors even exist?

Well, last year I got a working ABIT KT7A s462 board with a Duron for 10 euros.
All caps looked surprisingly good, I expected to at least see some signs of degradation, but there was none.
Whether that counts as 'good' capacitors, I don't know... 😄 ...and I don't remember what model/maker these caps had, but i believe they were the standard fare for these mobos.