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please tell me your planning a build with that sexy thing

chinny22 wrote on 2020-12-29, 13:43:

please tell me your planning a build with that sexy thing

I'm looking for a case with enough space to host everything without the need of a smurf squad (not the Grouchy Smurf though he's always "I hate going in the narrow case!") to service it each time I need to put my hands in it.

Yes, long sentence! 🤣

I'd like to have a plexi or acrylic model. It must show how cute it is 😀

I'm loving this build so far. I wish you good luck on your case hunt.

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-12-29, 18:45:

I'm loving this build so far. I wish you good luck on your case hunt.

Plexiglass AT case, I strongly believe none exists.
I could try to have one built but it could be quite expensive.

Unless you get either a full size AT tower case or and AT server case and put a window in the side panel

Wow, P-II overdrives. Which OS do you plan to install? I would be interested to see how my SIV utility does and am wondering if the board SMBIOS information.

red-ray wrote on 2020-12-31, 08:48:

Wow, P-II overdrives. Which OS do you plan to install? I would be interested to see how my SIV utility does and am wondering if the board SMBIOS information.

Just tell me what OS would be best and I'll give it a spin.
Retro fun is retro fun 😀

damn that's like a thousand dollars in that pic at ebay prices 🤣

Nexxen wrote on 2020-12-31, 14:33:

Just tell me what OS would be best and I'll give it a spin. Retro fun is retro fun 😀

Given the age of the board I am unsure if Windows 2000 will run well so would be inclined to start with NT4 SP6 and once that is running also install one of Windows 2003, XP or 2000.

I managed to also install both W2K + WXP on my system, but the CPU-1 cache ends up disabled whereas on NT4 SP6 it's fine.

How much memory will it have? With NT4 you can get away with 64MB, but more sill be needed for W2K and even more for WXP/2003.

red-ray wrote on 2020-12-31, 14:52:

Given the age of the board I am unsure if Windows 2000 will run well so would be inclined to start with NT4 SP6 and once that is […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2020-12-31, 14:33:

Just tell me what OS would be best and I'll give it a spin. Retro fun is retro fun 😀

Given the age of the board I am unsure if Windows 2000 will run well so would be inclined to start with NT4 SP6 and once that is running also install one of Windows 2003, XP or 2000.

I managed to also install both W2K + WXP on my system, but the CPU-1 cache ends up disabled whereas on NT4 SP6 it's fine.

How much memory will it have? With NT4 you can get away with 64MB, but more sill be needed for W2K and even more for WXP/2003.

Max Ram is 1024 in 8 slots, I have for sure 256 (8 x 32MiB). I have a lot of 32MiB only.
I can install NT 4 sp6 + 2K (sp required?) + Xp (sp required?).

Nexxen wrote on 2020-12-31, 15:05:

I have for sure 256 (8 x 32MiB). I have a lot of 32MiB only.
I can install NT 4 sp6 + 2K (sp required?) + Xp (sp required?).

256MB should be fine. SIV should run OK with the W2K + WNT RTM releases, I know SIV was OK on W2K RTM a couple of days ago, but am unsure about WXP. My systems I tend to have W2K SP4 + security rollup, WXP SP3 and 2003 SP2.

What disk will the system have? I use an 17 GB SCSI drive partitioned as below. C: needs to be FAT16 as NT4 does not support FAT32.

1[Volumes] <- SIV32L  - System Information Viewer V5.55 Beta-03 RDO::ray
2
3  Drive and Path  Volume Label  Format      SIV32L       Free     Total   Used   Cluster  Drive Type  Volume Serial
4
5  [A:]                          3½" 1.44MB                                                |Floppy|
6  [C:\]           RDO-C W310    FAT16       |G|      758.03MB    2.00GB    63%      32KB  |Fixed|     1604-1F10
7  [D:\]           RDO-D W351    FAT16                875.34MB    1.00GB    14%      16KB  |Fixed|     2046-65D9
8  [E:\]           RDO-E W400    FAT16                831.20MB    1.00GB    18%      16KB  |Fixed|     3899-2EFC
9  [F:\]           RDO-F KITS    FAT16                265.44MB    2.00GB    87%      32KB  |Fixed|     244E-B050
10  [G:\]           RDO-G W500    NTFS                   1.09GB    2.00GB    45%       2KB  |Fixed|     D4F4-1C1D
11  [H:\]           RDO-H W501    NTFS                   7.47GB    8.96GB    17%       4KB  |Fixed|     F80C-AF47
12
13           Total  Floppy         0 (1)                      0         0                   |Floppy|
14           Total  Fixed          6 (6)                11.22GB   16.95GB    34%            |Fixed|
15
16[  OK ]  [ Copy]   [Windows]  [Machine]  [USB Bus]  [Network]   [ SPD ]  [ SMART]  [Volumes]  [Drive C:]  [ NTFS]   [ALL Dev]

red-ray wrote on 2020-12-31, 15:23:

256MB should be fine. SIV should run OK with the W2K + WNT RTM releases, I know SIV was OK on W2K RTM a couple of days ago, but […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2020-12-31, 15:05:

I have for sure 256 (8 x 32MiB). I have a lot of 32MiB only.
I can install NT 4 sp6 + 2K (sp required?) + Xp (sp required?).

256MB should be fine. SIV should run OK with the W2K + WNT RTM releases, I know SIV was OK on W2K RTM a couple of days ago, but am unsure about WXP. My systems I tend to have W2K SP4 + security rollup, WXP SP3 and 2003 SP2.

What disk will the system have? I use an 17 GB SCSI drive partitioned as below. C: needs to be FAT16 as NT4 does not support FAT32.

Drives on my multi-boot system

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1[Volumes] <- SIV32L  - System Information Viewer V5.55 Beta-03 RDO::ray
2
3  Drive and Path  Volume Label  Format      SIV32L       Free     Total   Used   Cluster  Drive Type  Volume Serial
4
5  [A:]                          3½" 1.44MB                                                |Floppy|
6  [C:\]           RDO-C W310    FAT16       |G|      758.03MB    2.00GB    63%      32KB  |Fixed|     1604-1F10
7  [D:\]           RDO-D W351    FAT16                875.34MB    1.00GB    14%      16KB  |Fixed|     2046-65D9
8  [E:\]           RDO-E W400    FAT16                831.20MB    1.00GB    18%      16KB  |Fixed|     3899-2EFC
9  [F:\]           RDO-F KITS    FAT16                265.44MB    2.00GB    87%      32KB  |Fixed|     244E-B050
10  [G:\]           RDO-G W500    NTFS                   1.09GB    2.00GB    45%       2KB  |Fixed|     D4F4-1C1D
11  [H:\]           RDO-H W501    NTFS                   7.47GB    8.96GB    17%       4KB  |Fixed|     F80C-AF47
12
13           Total  Floppy         0 (1)                      0         0                   |Floppy|
14           Total  Fixed          6 (6)                11.22GB   16.95GB    34%            |Fixed|
15
16[  OK ]  [ Copy]   [Windows]  [Machine]  [USB Bus]  [Network]   [ SPD ]  [ SMART]  [Volumes]  [Drive C:]  [ NTFS]   [ALL Dev]

Some IDE with W2K as directed then.
My next project is this.

maxtherabbit wrote on 2020-12-31, 14:46:

damn that's like a thousand dollars in that pic at ebay prices 🤣

Ebay is out of the world. I'd never buy at those pirces.

Edit: made a mistake "pirces" instead of "prices", sounds like "pierces"... Freud was right all along 😀

Installed NT 4.0 Sp1 and would hang after a while.
Restarted in VGA mode and installed SP6a.
Had to restart in VGA mode again a set video resolution there and stopped hanging.

No USB. How do I?

Installing W2K SP4 now.

Nexxen wrote on 2021-01-03, 14:06:

No USB. How do I?

With NT4 Microsoft do not support USB, but there are 3rd party products, see https://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/. I suspect it's easier to install W2K.

I never really needed USB on my NT4 systems as they are all connected to my network.

red-ray wrote on 2021-01-03, 14:21:

Nexxen wrote on 2021-01-03, 14:06:

No USB. How do I?

With NT4 Microsoft do not support USB, but there are 3rd party products, see https://nt4ref.zcm.com.au/. I suspect it's easier to install W2K.

I never really needed USB on my NT4 systems as they are all connected to my network.

I figured. If not OTB go to W2K, works fine and easy.

Is W2K SP4 now running OK, did you install http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=891861 ?

Nexxen wrote on 2020-12-30, 20:43:

Plexiglass AT case, I strongly believe none exists.
I could try to have one built but it could be quite expensive.

The trend started after 2000 so little to no chance on an AT format.
It is however simple to mod a blind i/o backplate. Drilling some extra holes if needed is simple too.
Good luck finding a nice one - here some options:.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1377