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First post, by Sphere478

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Snagged this, not sure about the clock, but I hear I can expect trouble? What do I do to fix it? Are there multiple options?

It’s supposed to be in a removable socket, so at least there is that.

Is there a upgraded part? Or direct replacement? I would prefer not to modify unless it will look oem

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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 2 of 8, by Sphere478

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2021-01-21, 04:27:

You can buy a brand new Dallas DS12887 from digikey for under $10

Sounds like an ideal option. How long can one expect on average before it gives trouble again?

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 3 of 8, by dionb

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Sphere478 wrote on 2021-01-21, 04:54:
maxtherabbit wrote on 2021-01-21, 04:27:

You can buy a brand new Dallas DS12887 from digikey for under $10

Sounds like an ideal option. How long can one expect on average before it gives trouble again?

A decade or two.

There's a lot of hate on these things, as they are more expensive than coin cells and all too frequently were soldered onto the board (which was an arsehole move) but in fact they're pretty elegant - last for ages, don't leak if they fail and can be drop-in replaced. It's only idiots actually using systems well belong their technical and economic design lifetimes who have trouble with it. 😉

Reply 4 of 8, by chinny22

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Other options are hacking a Dallas chip to use a coin cell
http://www.mcamafia.de/mcapage0/dsrework.htm

or buy something like this which does the same thing but doesn't look as ugly
https://www.tindie.com/products/glitchwrks/gw … lacement-module

but if yours is socketed then I'd just get a standard replacement.
As dionb said its the motherboards that soldered the chip direct to the board that have given the chips a bad name.
One in my PC finally quit last year, on a PC that I've had since '95 and yeh mine's soldered 🙁

Reply 5 of 8, by Sphere478

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Oh wow 🤣 it’s just a little button cell in There 🤣

Sweet! All the i formation I needed to know!! Thanks guys!!

So these all had the same part number? (I don’t have the board yet to check) and was thinking of ordering ahead

Edit: oh wow, that custom one with a removable battery looks perfect!! I’ll probably get that!

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 6 of 8, by Sphere478

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https://monotech.fwscart.com/DS12887_RTC_Drop … zpALxZQuibpgARI

Ooo here is one that takes a bigger battery

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 8 of 8, by Sphere478

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maxtherabbit wrote on 2021-01-21, 17:31:

The new dallas module is still my recommendation. Costs less and full encapsulation > ability to change the battery again 25 years from mow

I was sold on the ability to use a normal battery on a oem looking solution that will basically fix it forever.

More money. But It’s the option I like the most.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)