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First post, by red_avatar

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My apologies if this question has been posed before - I did my best digging up old topics but the search returned thousands upon thousands of results about MS DOS itself, not 7.X.

My question is as follows:

My HP Vectra has support for very large drives but DOS 6.22 only supports partitions of 2GB. This seems ample but FAT16 also has the annoying side affect of taking up loads more space than needed due to the way it handles small files on large partitions. Since the system is designed with swappable Compact Flash cards (with a bracket around the back for easy access), I got the idea to have one CF card with DOS 6.22 for those games that don't work under DOS 7.X, and one with DOS 7.X.

The thing is, however, that I have no need for Windows 95 or 98. This is a Pentium 75 so any Win 9X system will run too slow to be usable and I have a much more suitable Pentium 233 MMX for that. On my P 233 MMX, rebooting to DOS is an annoying inconvenience so ideally I'd like MS DOS 7.X to work without any Windows 9X component. I googled a bit and found MS DOS 7.1 which is a stand-alone version someone made but found very little info on how compatible it is with the actual MS DOS 7.10:

https://www.wikihow.com/Install-MS-DOS-7.1

Anyone have any advice here? For me, compatibility is very important.

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Reply 1 of 4, by megatron-uk

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Just get a Windows 98SE boot disk and partition and format/sys the drive. Drop the contents of the Windows98/DOS directory into C:\Dos. Job Done.

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Reply 2 of 4, by konc

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Exactly as megatron-uk said, you can fdisk/format/sys from a windows 98se boot disk.
After that if you don't trust random downloads you can quickly do a basic install of win98 on some VM or a temporary one on real hardware and get the dos files that are located in
<windows installation dir>\command
<windows cdrom>\tools\oldmsdos
and copy them to c:\dos. Since you mentioned compatibility you can also grab setver.exe from your installation (it's not inside these two folders), that should give you everything you need.

Reply 3 of 4, by red_avatar

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megatron-uk wrote on 2021-02-09, 11:24:

Just get a Windows 98SE boot disk and partition and format/sys the drive. Drop the contents of the Windows98/DOS directory into C:\Dos. Job Done.

Makes sense - it's funny how I didn't think of that ... . I've been using a boot disk to circumvent Windows 9X on my P233 but didn't think you could actually get it to boot DOS off a hard drive that way ... but never even tried to see if it worked. Thanks!

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IBM PS1 386SX25 - 4MB
IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
IBM PC350 P233MMX - 64MB - 32GB SSD - AWE64 - Voodoo2
PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
i5-2500k - 3GB - SB Audigy 2 - HD 4870

Reply 4 of 4, by megatron-uk

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No problem!

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