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First post, by Hamby

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I've a super socket 7 motherboard (P5V? I can't recall the brand and it's not labeled on the MB) equipped with a K6-2 300mhz cpu, 256mb ram, and running Windows 98SE.
I've been using it with an Nvidia GeForce MX200 AGP video card (32mb ram)

I decided I wanted to upgrade to an FX-5500 video card. I had forgotten that this motherboard was actually AGP, and got a PCI NVIDIA Fx-5500. Then I found an inexpensive AGP FX-5500.

Now, the machine boots with the MX200, though I have to sometimes hit the reset button a couple times before it boots.
The machine also boots with a PCI Trident card (I don't think it has 3D acceleration) with 4mb ram. And I don't have to hit the reset switch.

I tried the FX-5500 PCI... both FX-5500s have 256mb ram, btw... and it wouldn't boot. I tried the FX-5500 AGP... still wouldn't boot. Nothing. doesn't even bump the floppy as it normally would.

I tried making some adjustments to the bios (such as making the AGP aperture 256mb), but it's done no good.
It's possible, I suppose, that I got 2 bad video cards in a row, but seems much more likely either an AGP issue or a bios settings issue.

I wanted the FX5500s because I want to install the DirectX 9 SDK on the system.

What I ultimately am trying for is a 300mhz system with 256mb ram and a 3D video card compatible with DirectX 9, and running Windows 98SE.
This similar to what I ran in the late 1990s early 2000s, iirc (in fact, this machine was my main machine back in the day).

Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what I can do to troubleshoot this issue?

I don't know if it's related or not, but even though the system is plugged into power from the wall, the CMOS battery *sometimes* seems to forget *some* of the settings. Most notably, the time. Last time I used the machine was the afternoon of May 31st, and when I fired it up tonight at 21:20 on June 4th (using the Trident card), the bios said the time was 14:23 on May 31st.

Reply 1 of 6, by BitWrangler

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Modern or vintage PSU? I've had things like this when the PSU was getting weak.

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Reply 2 of 6, by Hamby

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-06-05, 02:52:

Modern or vintage PSU? I've had things like this when the PSU was getting weak.

it's a 400watt AT power supply I picked up a few years ago. I suppose I could try connecting an ATX PSU (I think I have one available); the motherboard has a connector for it...

Reply 3 of 6, by Hamby

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it definitely does not like either FX5500...

Reply 4 of 6, by Repo Man11

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Super 7 boards are notorious for having picky AGP slots. I have two MVP3 boards, a Soyo and an Epox, and the most high powered AGP card I can use in the Soyo is a GF3 Ti 200 - the FX 5500 and FX 5600 cards I have will not work in the Soyo board, but they both work fine in my Epox MVP3G-M.

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Reply 5 of 6, by BitWrangler

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Keep tabs on this thread too, there might be some similarities... WIN98SE machine won't boot with a Voodoo3 3000, but will with a Graphics Blaster Exxtreme

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Reply 6 of 6, by Hamby

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-06-05, 04:07:

Keep tabs on this thread too, there might be some similarities... WIN98SE machine won't boot with a Voodoo3 3000, but will with a Graphics Blaster Exxtreme

I read that thread... very depressing.

If it's the AGP, why won't the PCI FX500 work?
I've pulled every other card from the system and tried booting with it in every PCI slot... no dice.