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First post, by hojuruku

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https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/cover/924311/

We all know dosbox is popular still for IPX network gaming - at least for mech2.org and a few other cult communities. Recently IPX has removed the Linux kernel. I was actually going to use it to set up a Mars NW server to see if Win95 on dosbox (with the ipx interrupt 7e driver) could talk to it.

When wine compiles if it sees no headers in the kernel for IPX - then you get no IPX protocol support in.

Maybe it would be a good idea for someone who maintain the IPX to try and get it back in the kernel - or better yet get wine to convert IPX to UDP traffic like this.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/ipxemu/files/ipxemu-1.0.0/

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Reply 1 of 11, by DosFreak

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I do wonder how often people would like to see code like that updated I guess for code like that you'd have to put in a comment every so often to appear active but I guess the issue here is it's been in staging for so long without a maintainer. Are there lots of people using real IPX on modern linux distros and if so why?

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Reply 2 of 11, by hojuruku

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BTW does the IPX interface in dosbox work after you launch the guest OS windows 95 etc?

The MSCDEX TSR doesn't stay around but does IPX (say when you run windows 95?)

Some on other forums have said it doesn't.

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Reply 3 of 11, by gdjacobs

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I suspect using the underlying IPX of the host OS would be unstable at best for DOSBox. Is there an emulation method which uses soft bridges / tunnels / taps of the host for IPX?

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Reply 4 of 11, by Gopher666

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Ahh man I just recently found out about this...

cat /boot/config-4.14.18-sunxi | grep -i ipx
# CONFIG_IPX is not set

On 5.6 it was gone already but, BUT they have left:

│ CONFIG_DECNET: │
│ │
│ The DECnet networking protocol was used in many products made by │
│ Digital (now Compaq). It provides reliable stream and sequenced │
│ packet communications over which run a variety of services similar │
│ to those which run over TCP/IP.

and tons of other obsolete junks in it.

DECnet is a suite of network protocols created by Digital Equipment Corporation. Originally released in 1975 in order to connect two PDP-11 minicomputers, it evolved into one of the first peer-to-peer network architectures, thus transforming DEC into a networking powerhouse in the 1980s.

I don't know what are these devs smoking sometimes. One thing we should remove definitely from all linuxes is systemd instead 😁

Reply 5 of 11, by weedeewee

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Gopher666 wrote on 2021-06-07, 20:29:
Ahh man I just recently found out about this... […]
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Ahh man I just recently found out about this...

cat /boot/config-4.14.18-sunxi | grep -i ipx
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
...
I don't know what are these devs smoking sometimes. One thing we should remove definitely from all linuxes is systemd instead 😁

Agreed, Linux just got messed up by all the different embedded platform nonsense additions.
They should've left the 386 support in place together with IPX.

Reply 6 of 11, by Caluser2000

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Just use an older kernel and put a new entry in GRUB.

You use to be able to load kernel drivers on the flie. Is that not possible these days? Does 64-bit Windows 10 support IPX or a 386? Or even 32-bit Windows 10?

But then again I'm no Computer Tech......

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Reply 7 of 11, by Jo22

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Let's don't worry, AppleTalk/LocalTalk seems still to be there. 🙂👍

https://cregit.linuxsources.org/code/4.18/net … et_atalk.c.html

https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2020/08/hac … -5-1-and-newer/

That works okay for networking DOS/WIN3 and Mac boxes in a LAN.

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Reply 8 of 11, by Caluser2000

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Jo22 wrote on 2021-06-07, 21:36:
Let's don't worry, AppleTalk/LocalTalk seems still to be there. 🙂👍 […]
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Let's don't worry, AppleTalk/LocalTalk seems still to be there. 🙂👍

https://cregit.linuxsources.org/code/4.18/net … et_atalk.c.html

https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2020/08/hac … -5-1-and-newer/

That works okay for networking DOS/WIN3 and Mac boxes in a LAN.

Your first link was for the 4.18 kernal not the 5.1 kernel That is rather old as far as kernels go. Well the whole thread is in fact.

This 32-bit bad boy system is on 4.19 already.

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A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 9 of 11, by Caluser2000

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I was correct. You can add a ipx loadable kernal module after the kernel isloaded and operational https://www.linuxsecrets.com/about-us/14-linu … el-module-howto

They've been around since kernal 1.something apparently.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
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Reply 10 of 11, by Caluser2000

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Of course you could just get the source code and compile your own custom kernel. But I'm not a Computer Tech.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
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Reply 11 of 11, by Caluser2000

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Oh look my 64-bit system kernel is also 4.19 as well.

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There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉