65C02 wrote on 2021-06-26, 02:41:
darry wrote on 2021-06-26, 00:51:CPU integrated TPMs are relatively recent . Discrete TPM modules haven a thing for over a decade, AFAIK. […]
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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-06-26, 00:43:
Wait, what? TPM has been around a lot longer than that. Even the Dell Latitude laptops and desktops that came with 2nd gen Core-I CPUs had the option of having a TPM chip.
Pretty sure my X79 (3-4th gen) and X99 (5th - 6th gen) motherboards have TPM chips.
CPU integrated TPMs are relatively recent . Discrete TPM modules haven a thing for over a decade, AFAIK.
As for version, Windows 11 tolerates 1.2, but strongly prefers 2.0. About 10 years separate them .
See
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/tpm-modules … sive-windows-11
The mad rush to upgrade computers for an upcoming Windows reminds me of the 95 launch. 🤣
Except in 1995, there weren't supply chain issues and hardware shortages like there are now. Additionally, Windows 95 was actually worth getting excited about, to a point .
What does Windows 11 bring to the table versus Windows 10 that actually makes most people go "I must have it" and actually want to buy a new PC to get it ?
I mean, Microsoft had to work hard to convince people to switch to Windows 10 while the bar to entry on the hardware front was low and the upgrade was free .
Now, Microsoft have come up with Windows 11 which
- ups the bar to entry higher possibly within reason on some points (TPM, UEFI, Secure boot) but arguably arbitrarily so on other points (CPU)
- has nebulous, ill defined and apparently changing hard and soft limits on hardware support post announcement (on a date that Microsoft chose, you would think they would be ready and prepared)
- is launched at at a time where hardware availability is a serious issue
- provides little incentive to switch (wow, Androids apps on Windows!) save for having an EOL date further away than Windows 10's
Additionally, whoever initially designed/approved the wondrous PC Health/Windows 11 upgrade checker app apparently
- didn't think that anyone would want to know WHY their PC is inelegible for Windows 11 (at least that was improved upon, to a point, rather quickly)
- thought that it was a good idea to only show ONE ineligibility issue at a time, rather than report a list of issues . Here is my experience with it :
First run of PC Health : you don't have secure boot enabled ---> Me : I convert to GPT, reboot, enable Secure boot in BIOS/UEFI and start Windows
Second run of PC Health : you don't have a TPM --> Me: I enable TPM in BIOS/UEFI and start Windows
Third run of PC Health : your CPU isn't supported -->Me : Now you tell me, you shoddily designed piece of garbage of a software tool ? (for reference I am running a Dell M4800 with TPM 1.2 and a Core i7-4810MQ)
Maybe there is a very well thought out strategy being executed perfectly by Microsoft and I am just too dense to understand how fantastically intelligent this is, but I get the impression that this whole thing was elaborated by a rather large number of people collectively using a very small pool of neurons on a timesharing basis .
Sorry for the rant .
EDIT : Corrected typos