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Reply 39841 of 52361, by BitWrangler

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Since they bothered to supply DX/SX jumpers on this board instead of hardwiring it, I'm gonna guess that the CPU is not soldered down and coulda just been swapped out for a DX anyway 🤣

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 39843 of 52361, by BitWrangler

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Wow, what a waste of five cents worth of header and jumper caps. 🤣

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 39844 of 52361, by tabm0de

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mothergoose729 wrote on 2021-07-16, 15:55:
tabm0de wrote on 2021-07-16, 15:54:
liqmat wrote on 2021-07-16, 14:32:

Fantastic. Love how it's so close to the ad. The only items that look even slightly yellowed are the optical drive and mouse. Otherwise, that setup seems pristine. How do the insides look?

except the dust is looks brand new, i guess the door was never closed after unboxing hens the yellow cdrom 😀

Did the PS/1 keyboard use buckling springs? Quite a score.

ye, but i do like model m more then model m 2 😉

naa, nothing yet...

Reply 39845 of 52361, by PC@LIVE

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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-07-16, 16:06:
One of those new stock ebay jobbies? I picked one up recently. I'm sure it will come in handy at some point - but it didn't find […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-07-15, 20:37:
Today finally after a long wait the PCI video card with ATI RAGE XL chip has arrived. It has an on-board memory of 8MB, which is […]
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Today finally after a long wait the PCI video card with ATI RAGE XL chip has arrived.
It has an on-board memory of 8MB, which is enough for Dos and windows 3.X and 9x programs, especially for resolutions below 1024x768, however the card has no drivers supplied, there is neither a floppy nor a CD.
For the drivers I still have to look for them, I hope it is not complicated to find them, however I think a lot depends on the OS, I believe that specific drivers are not needed with winXP (or higher),
I plan to install it on a socket7 PC and i430 chipset, currently I have a couple of VX on the bench and two TX PCs where I could replace the Vga with this one.

One of those new stock ebay jobbies? I picked one up recently. I'm sure it will come in handy at some point - but it didn't find its niche in my current setup. My little journey in four posts:

https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 7#post-18902732
Socket 7 test (DOS rig with P166. Spoiler: Didn't work): https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18903401
SS7 test (Aptiva W98 rig with K6-2, with 3dmark99 test): https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18907524
DOS benchmarks on the Aptiva: https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18908104

As mentioned I let W98 install the standard VGA driver for it, then manually updated it with the Rage 128 / Pro drivers from here: https://www.philscomputerlab.com/ati-9x-driver-archive.html

Thank you very much for the info and for the links.
I downloaded the driver for W98, from the phils.CL page, for the moment I am working on some 486, but I will try to put the RAGE XL on a TX, I have a couple and I thought of putting it in one with the K6-2 -400 (CXT).
From memory I remember that there is W98 on the disk, so everything should be ok by installing the phils.C.L driver.
Yes I bought it on e @ bay, it cost about 10 $ including shipping, I had other VGA PCI in case they needed it, but I didn't have cards with 8MB of RAM, so besides the low cost also the RAM was decisive to buy it .

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 39846 of 52361, by BetaC

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Not sure when this boy was actually made, let alone if it's one of the switchable XT/AT keyboards, but hey, who am I to say no to a $7 Mechanical AT Keyboard.

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It's a Qtronix S-305, which leads to a lot of people asking what it is. I grabbed an AT-PS/2 adapter while I was at it, so once it's cleaned up it should be ready to use.

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Reply 39847 of 52361, by BitWrangler

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It's gonna be '95 or later due to the Win95 keys, and XT/AT switchables were pretty much done by then... and the telltale thing is that they have a switch on them.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 39848 of 52361, by Pierre32

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-07-16, 19:37:
Thank you very much for the info and for the links. I downloaded the driver for W98, from the phils.CL page, for the moment I am […]
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Pierre32 wrote on 2021-07-16, 16:06:
One of those new stock ebay jobbies? I picked one up recently. I'm sure it will come in handy at some point - but it didn't find […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-07-15, 20:37:
Today finally after a long wait the PCI video card with ATI RAGE XL chip has arrived. It has an on-board memory of 8MB, which is […]
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Today finally after a long wait the PCI video card with ATI RAGE XL chip has arrived.
It has an on-board memory of 8MB, which is enough for Dos and windows 3.X and 9x programs, especially for resolutions below 1024x768, however the card has no drivers supplied, there is neither a floppy nor a CD.
For the drivers I still have to look for them, I hope it is not complicated to find them, however I think a lot depends on the OS, I believe that specific drivers are not needed with winXP (or higher),
I plan to install it on a socket7 PC and i430 chipset, currently I have a couple of VX on the bench and two TX PCs where I could replace the Vga with this one.

One of those new stock ebay jobbies? I picked one up recently. I'm sure it will come in handy at some point - but it didn't find its niche in my current setup. My little journey in four posts:

https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 7#post-18902732
Socket 7 test (DOS rig with P166. Spoiler: Didn't work): https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18903401
SS7 test (Aptiva W98 rig with K6-2, with 3dmark99 test): https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18907524
DOS benchmarks on the Aptiva: https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/yo … 8#post-18908104

As mentioned I let W98 install the standard VGA driver for it, then manually updated it with the Rage 128 / Pro drivers from here: https://www.philscomputerlab.com/ati-9x-driver-archive.html

Thank you very much for the info and for the links.
I downloaded the driver for W98, from the phils.CL page, for the moment I am working on some 486, but I will try to put the RAGE XL on a TX, I have a couple and I thought of putting it in one with the K6-2 -400 (CXT).
From memory I remember that there is W98 on the disk, so everything should be ok by installing the phils.C.L driver.
Yes I bought it on e @ bay, it cost about 10 $ including shipping, I had other VGA PCI in case they needed it, but I didn't have cards with 8MB of RAM, so besides the low cost also the RAM was decisive to buy it .

No problem, and good luck with it. I'll be interested to see how you go.

Reply 39849 of 52361, by BetaC

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-07-16, 23:59:

It's gonna be '95 or later due to the Win95 keys, and XT/AT switchables were pretty much done by then... and the telltale thing is that they have a switch on them.

I knew it would be newer because of the windows keys, but thanks for letting me know about the XT switch. It's not a big deal for me, honestly. I'm just happy to have something that feels even better than what I'm currently using that can also be used for that eventual 486 system that I wanna build.

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Reply 39850 of 52361, by cyclone3d

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Pretty sure there were at least a few keyboards that automatically detected AT/XT and used the mode needed.

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Reply 39851 of 52361, by MMaximus

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cyclone3d wrote on 2021-07-17, 04:59:

Pretty sure there were at least a few keyboards that automatically detected AT/XT and used the mode needed.

I have a few of these - two different model M and a Commodore PC keyboard. They all have an "autosense" XT/AT capability

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Reply 39853 of 52361, by framebuffer

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kixs wrote on 2021-07-17, 08:52:
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Recent purchases arrived to a new home 😁

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wow are those sealed?

I've got this Logitech controller from 1996, nothing special but it's 25 years old and still sealed!
Still not sure if I want to open it

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Reply 39855 of 52361, by Turbo ->

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Bought 2 AT computers without HDD. Inside there were two socket 3 motherboards with 486 120 MHz CPU. One of them has Dallas battery and the other has bq3287AMT. Does anyone know if the bq3287AMT can be modified like the Dallas chip? The seller also threw in o few other cards and a lifetime supply of computer screws (12 Kg).

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Reply 39857 of 52361, by debs3759

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Turbo -> wrote on 2021-07-18, 18:24:

and a lifetime supply of computer screws (12 Kg).

That's insane! I thought I had a lot - I would estimate maybe 1Kg. But that's no guarantee you will have any you need 😀

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 39858 of 52361, by BitWrangler

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debs3759 wrote on 2021-07-18, 18:58:
Turbo -> wrote on 2021-07-18, 18:24:

and a lifetime supply of computer screws (12 Kg).

That's insane! I thought I had a lot - I would estimate maybe 1Kg. But that's no guarantee you will have any you need 😀

Yah, I'd probably still run out of 5mm and shorter M3s and those self tap fan screws.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 39859 of 52361, by kixs

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Turbo -> wrote on 2021-07-18, 18:24:

Bought 2 AT computers without HDD. Inside there were two socket 3 motherboards with 486 120 MHz CPU. One of them has Dallas battery and the other has bq3287AMT. Does anyone know if the bq3287AMT can be modified like the Dallas chip? The seller also threw in o few other cards and a lifetime supply of computer screws (12 Kg).

bq3287AMT and Dallas are interchangeable.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs