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Reply 40020 of 52626, by Old_Jelly

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PD2JK wrote on 2021-08-03, 20:25:
Old_Jelly wrote on 2021-08-03, 20:11:

Got myself a ASUS V8200 Deluxe

Nice card, I have the non-deluxe version in my slot-A rig. Fan still spinning?

Yep, works like a charm !

Reply 40021 of 52626, by appiah4

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BetaC wrote on 2021-08-03, 18:40:

Would the Vibra be worth using over my other OPL equipped cards?

Depends on what those are.. Model numbers?

Old_Jelly wrote on 2021-08-03, 20:11:

Got myself a ASUS V8200 Deluxe, funny thing is the seller told me it's a GF3 Ti200 but when I checked HWInfo & GPU Z it was a Geforce 3 200/460 Mhz.

I have a Rev. 1.01 version of the same card, it is indeed a GF3. Mine lacks the fan sticker though, I need to do something about that sometime.

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Reply 40022 of 52626, by teclillass

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Old_Jelly wrote on 2021-08-03, 20:11:
Got myself a ASUS V8200 Deluxe, funny thing is the seller told me it's a GF3 Ti200 but when I checked HWInfo & GPU Z it was a Ge […]
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Got myself a ASUS V8200 Deluxe, funny thing is the seller told me it's a GF3 Ti200 but when I checked HWInfo & GPU Z it was a Geforce 3 200/460 Mhz.

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The difference is 25mhz more in geforce 3.

175mhz - geforce 3 ti 200
200mhz - geforce 3

Almost all geforce 3 cards are ti200 or ti500.
A beautiful card the v8200 deluxe.

TheMobRules wrote on 2021-08-04, 01:29:
teclillass wrote on 2021-08-03, 21:26:

The difference is 25mhz less in geforce 3.

175mhz - geforce 3
200mhz - geforce 3 ti200

Actually the original GeForce 3 is the faster one at 200MHz, while the Ti200 was clocked at 175:

List of Nvidia graphics processing units - GeForce3 series

you're right, thanks

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Reply 40023 of 52626, by BitWrangler

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The plain "Geforce 3" wasn't really around very long before they split into TI200 and TI500 flavors.

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Reply 40024 of 52626, by Bige4u

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zapbuzz wrote on 2021-08-03, 13:43:
vintage Yamaha-CD-Writer-CDR400t […]
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vintage Yamaha-CD-Writer-CDR400t

I got this as untested so I test it tomorrow.
Its about 3 years older than the motherboard I'm going to interface with it.
I decided to do this because IDE ones slow down other devices on the same ribbon and I haven't got an IDE port supporting sound card. (I don't think there are many for a PCI only motherboardor at least I haven't found one)
There are more modern versions that are verified as working but the price omg its like buying gold.
If it works I'll have a cool YAMAHA burner with 2mb burn proof cache.
Man its as old as i was as a teenager so I'm not giving my hopes up but at least i'll still get a SCSI ribbon!
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I also have a Matsushita Panasonic Vintage 12x Speed Cd-rom Drive Cr-584-b (not pictured) from 1997 to test that i've had stored for at least 13 years.(forgot about it)
These would look good in the beige box together but I may be using the IDE for a faster speed DVD burner and the matsPana would slow down the data speed of the bus.
I see I've used this one as a coffee coaster at some stage as it has coffee cup rings on its underside .... a bad habbit 😀
If it works I may sell it or use it in a pentium 1 or older.
I remember these things cost a fortune and the dissapointment when I first owned an IDE CDROM didn't make discs it had to be a cd writer which cost even more off the shelf.
They are so fast these days but I like the older ones because the data discs don't roar loudly. I know theres tools to slow them down but now I don't have to use them.

Reminds me of the time i bought my very first CD burner back in 1998 i believe, purchased brand new retail from a CompUSA store locally thats no longer around... Mitsumi 4x/8x(burn/read), almost $500 after tax, used it for about 2weeks, worked great, then returned it, i just could not justify the price.

Pentium3 1400s/ Asus Tusl2-c / Kingston 512mb pc133 cl2 / WD 20gb 7200rpm / GeForce3 Ti-500 64mb / Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 SB0100 / 16x dvdrom / 3.5 Floppy / Enermax 420w / Win98se

Reply 40025 of 52626, by BetaC

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-08-03, 21:10:
Depends on what those are.. Model numbers? […]
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BetaC wrote on 2021-08-03, 18:40:

Would the Vibra be worth using over my other OPL equipped cards?

Depends on what those are.. Model numbers?

Old_Jelly wrote on 2021-08-03, 20:11:

Got myself a ASUS V8200 Deluxe, funny thing is the seller told me it's a GF3 Ti200 but when I checked HWInfo & GPU Z it was a Geforce 3 200/460 Mhz.

I have a Rev. 1.01 version of the same card, it is indeed a GF3. Mine lacks the fan sticker though, I need to do something about that sometime.

I have a labway YMF719 card that is currently doing MIDI only thanks to it not Wanting to work with another card for anything else, and a pseudo-PNP SB16 CT2740.

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Reply 40026 of 52626, by TheMobRules

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teclillass wrote on 2021-08-03, 21:26:

The difference is 25mhz less in geforce 3.

175mhz - geforce 3
200mhz - geforce 3 ti200

Actually the original GeForce 3 is the faster one at 200MHz, while the Ti200 was clocked at 175:

List of Nvidia graphics processing units - GeForce3 series

Reply 40027 of 52626, by zapbuzz

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Bige4u wrote on 2021-08-03, 23:48:
zapbuzz wrote on 2021-08-03, 13:43:
vintage Yamaha-CD-Writer-CDR400t […]
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vintage Yamaha-CD-Writer-CDR400t

I got this as untested so I test it tomorrow.
Its about 3 years older than the motherboard I'm going to interface with it.
I decided to do this because IDE ones slow down other devices on the same ribbon and I haven't got an IDE port supporting sound card. (I don't think there are many for a PCI only motherboardor at least I haven't found one)
There are more modern versions that are verified as working but the price omg its like buying gold.
If it works I'll have a cool YAMAHA burner with 2mb burn proof cache.
Man its as old as i was as a teenager so I'm not giving my hopes up but at least i'll still get a SCSI ribbon!
🤣
I also have a Matsushita Panasonic Vintage 12x Speed Cd-rom Drive Cr-584-b (not pictured) from 1997 to test that i've had stored for at least 13 years.(forgot about it)
These would look good in the beige box together but I may be using the IDE for a faster speed DVD burner and the matsPana would slow down the data speed of the bus.
I see I've used this one as a coffee coaster at some stage as it has coffee cup rings on its underside .... a bad habbit 😀
If it works I may sell it or use it in a pentium 1 or older.
I remember these things cost a fortune and the dissapointment when I first owned an IDE CDROM didn't make discs it had to be a cd writer which cost even more off the shelf.
They are so fast these days but I like the older ones because the data discs don't roar loudly. I know theres tools to slow them down but now I don't have to use them.

Reminds me of the time i bought my very first CD burner back in 1998 i believe, purchased brand new retail from a CompUSA store locally thats no longer around... Mitsumi 4x/8x(burn/read), almost $500 after tax, used it for about 2weeks, worked great, then returned it, i just could not justify the price.

Ok you went further than me i just looked in a shop so your a hero WTG 😀

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Reply 40028 of 52626, by Ydee

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Not so much hardware - an unpacked, but unused Mitsumi DIN keyboard, a retro floppy disk box with disks and an unpacked MS-DOS 6.22 OS (it´s little dirty).

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Reply 40029 of 52626, by zapbuzz

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Ydee wrote on 2021-08-04, 10:20:

Not so much hardware - an unpacked, but unused Mitsumi DIN keyboard, a retro floppy disk box with disks and an unpacked MS-DOS 6.22 OS (it´s little dirty).

I find it facinating MS-DOS had a COA
The woman watermark on MS products upset people because in her pioneering days they didn't do copyright 🤣

Now I'm thinking how xerox could had been everyones computer today but hey theres always spyware cookies. (Not vogons) 😀

Reply 40030 of 52626, by AngryByDefault

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So, I thought July was "Video card month" for me, but I was wrong... it was "Loosing Control Month"...

I finally found someone selling _and shipping_ not only a 486 board but actually a whole system with pretty much everything I wanted when I set off for this quest:

A Socket 3 PCI board, with an AMD 5x86-P75 and a PCI S3 Trio64 VGA!!

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There's also the case obviously, a working PSU, floppy, 3Com ISA Nic, 1.7 GB drive booting Caldera OpenDos 7.

On top of that, it was a great price too at U$ 40 (although prices are a very relative reference)
Yeah, I know its a PCChips and what that implies, but I still think it is great getting a board with so many options. In this market that was by far the most popular brand so they're pretty much all there is.

This was the kind of situation I figured was my best chance to get something like this at a good price:
An old store shotting down or cleaning up its warehouse, o the guy was putting up quite a bunch of stuff at a good price...
...and I was happy about finding the system I was longing for...
...and, I don't know, "I was young and needed to spend the money" Is that a valid excuse anymore?...:

Because I ended up getting all of these too:

-> two sealed joysticks (plus a third sent for free as a bonus)

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-> and the icing on the cake: waaay more Socket 3 CPUs than time will allow me to play with 🤣 🤣

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But, hey, the *good news* is that I know whats coming up: it is "I'm Broke August" followed by "She Kicked Me Out September" 😜

Reply 40031 of 52626, by zapbuzz

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AngryByDefault wrote on 2021-08-04, 13:30:
So, I thought July was "Video card month" for me, but I was wrong... it was "Loosing Control Month"... […]
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So, I thought July was "Video card month" for me, but I was wrong... it was "Loosing Control Month"...

I finally found someone selling _and shipping_ not only a 486 board but actually a whole system with pretty much everything I wanted when I set off for this quest:

A Socket 3 PCI board, with an AMD 5x86-P75 and a PCI S3 Trio64 VGA!!
IMG_20210730_130245.jpg
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IMG_20210730_125705.jpg
There's also the case obviously, a working PSU, floppy, 3Com ISA Nic, 1.7 GB drive booting Caldera OpenDos 7.

On top of that, it was a great price too at U$ 40 (although prices are a very relative reference)
Yeah, I know its a PCChips and what that implies, but I still think it is great getting a board with so many options. In this market that was by far the most popular brand so they're pretty much all there is.

This was the kind of situation I figured was my best chance to get something like this at a good price:
An old store shotting down or cleaning up its warehouse, o the guy was putting up quite a bunch of stuff at a good price...
...and I was happy about finding the system I was longing for...
...and, I don't know, "I was young and needed to spend the money" Is that a valid excuse anymore?...:

Because I ended up getting all of these too:

-> two sealed joysticks (plus a third sent for free as a bonus)
IMG_20210730_213147~2.jpg

-> and the icing on the cake: waaay more Socket 3 CPUs than time will allow me to play with 🤣 🤣
IMG_20210730_223054.jpg

But, hey, the *good news* is that I know whats coming up: it is "I'm Broke August" followed by "She Kicked Me Out September" 😜

Loosing motherboard multiplier pin jumpers is almost bad interchanging CPU's especially waiting for replacements from overseas 🤣

Reply 40032 of 52626, by BetaC

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Well, today went better than expected. I was grabbing an AAUI adapter for my 7100, and a promise UltraATA 66 card for my gateway, when I managed to find this absolute unit for $10.

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Yes, the sticker is telling the truth. It's a Socket 8 System. Well, not just A socket 8. No, this system actually came with two 200MHz 256k PPros.

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It also came with a 4GB SCSI drive, and an absolutely pretty Glint 500TX that nicely has a gold slot.

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I managed to get the system cleaned out and did a repasting of the heatsinks, but learned that it only has one literally burnt-out fan. I don't have any spares available, so for now it's using the fan I usually place on my MMX system daintily placed above both to at least give them some

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Still, the system is up and running, and outside of the fan issue, it seems to be totally fine. I'll figure out something to do with it soon.

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Reply 40033 of 52626, by luckybob

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BetaC wrote:

Still, the system is up and running, and outside of the fan issue, it seems to be totally fine. I'll figure out something to do with it soon.

Oh, that's easy. I will buy that beautiful bastard from you. I don't have a dual ppro Compaq.

I will feed him.
I will brush him.
I will call him George.
https://youtu.be/ArNz8U7tgU4. (For reference)

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 40034 of 52626, by RandomStranger

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I've decided to build a second NAS, this time on a budget, so I again started looking for a compact yet spacious case to house the ITX board I picked up last week and 4 hard drives. On a local auction site I've found an older Shuttle XPC and based on the images included in the listing, it seemed to be just about what I was looking for. I thought if it fits my needs, I have a case for the NAS and salvage the rest and if not, I have a new compact destkop PC. Luckily this time I didn't forget about the auction and won. For $14 worth of good local currency (shipping included) I bought it and today just arrived.

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The PC ended up being much smaller than expected and completely non-standard, so it stays as a retro box.
It has fairly decent specs. Athlon 64 3700+ which should I assume blow my 3GHz Prescott out of the water, 1GB RAM, an Elsa branded Geforce 2 MX graphics card and a 40GB hard drive, both needs an upgrade. Besides the AGP prot it has an additional PCI slot for a sound card. I'm a little disappointed that I can't use it for the intended purpose, but it's seems to be alright for dual booting Windows 98 and XP. I don't know how much should I trust the 240W PSU, but I'll need a faster graphics card. I have a passively cooled X1050 256MB which is essentially an X700 Pro and just about the right performance, but I don't know if this revision works with W98 drivers. I also know there is a 7600GT or GS AGP in one of the local shops (if they didn't throw it out yet), but I never tried the GF7 series with W98 either.

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Reply 40035 of 52626, by bjwil1991

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luckybob wrote on 2021-08-05, 06:03:
Oh, that's easy. I will buy that beautiful bastard from you. I don't have a dual ppro Compaq. […]
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BetaC wrote:

Still, the system is up and running, and outside of the fan issue, it seems to be totally fine. I'll figure out something to do with it soon.

Oh, that's easy. I will buy that beautiful bastard from you. I don't have a dual ppro Compaq.

I will feed him.
I will brush him.
I will call him George.
https://youtu.be/ArNz8U7tgU4. (For reference)

I understand that reference (huge Looney Tunes fan).

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Reply 40037 of 52626, by HanJammer

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This mystery machine with two 8" NEC floppy drives. Perhaps just a drives and controller in a custom enclosure.
I gonna take a closer look at it tomorrow.

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Reply 40038 of 52626, by BitWrangler

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Could find a motorola CPU in there. VME bus control system or something.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 40039 of 52626, by HanJammer

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-08-05, 21:29:

Could find a motorola CPU in there. VME bus control system or something.

Yeah. It has 6809 in it with boards marked as 'EPSILON'. It also has stickers with a date the modules were tested (20.11.84 so few years before VME was standarized). Do you have any idea what it may be?

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