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Reply 20 of 22, by appiah4

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For SS7 AGP my experience is the following (all cards listed in order of performance)

Works fine:
-Intel i740
-TNT2 M64
-Matrox G200
-Savage4
-TNT2
-Rage 128
-Matrox G400

Gamble:
-Rage 128 PRO
-TNT2 Ultra
-Radeon SDR
-GeForce 256 SDR
-Radeon DDR
-GeForce 256 DDR
-GeForce2 MX

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Reply 21 of 22, by bloodem

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deksar wrote on 2021-08-17, 14:05:

Sorry for the bump, but why? I was planning to upgrade my VGA card to a "Axle Nvidia 6200A 512MB 64BIT DDR2 (directx 9) DVI Agp 8X" one. Isn't that card supported by Win98SE?
Any idea is much appreciated.

Generally speaking, the GeForce 6xxx series support on Win98 is VERY flaky. These cards require newer drivers and those drivers break compatibility with many older titles (and if you build a SS7 system, you are doing it for the compatibility with a wide range of older games, otherwise you'd build a newer PC that's a lot more powerful). Newer games are not playable on a SS7, anyway. 😀

Now, if you are planning on using a GeForce 6200 card with a SS7 system, there are many more issues that you can expect:
- the card requires A LOT of power (25W), which for most SS7 boards is just too much (many of them were built very cheaply, with underpowered AGP implementations).
- half of the performance compared to a period correct card (those late nvidia drivers were never optimized for old, slow SS7 CPUs, so the added overhead is a performance killer)
- a lot of random BSODs, freezes, etc (because of the newer drivers running on what is generally a pretty unstable platform anyway).

For SS7 what you want is a GeForce 2 MX 400 (one that actually has the full 128 bit memory bus - there are a lot of MX400 fakes out there, with only a 64 bit memory bus, like the MX200). My favorite nVIDIA drivers for SS7 is the 7.76 version.
The fastest and most compatible card for a SS7 PC is the Voodoo 3 (although even this card, with its 15W of power draw, can have issues on some cheap boards). Unfortunately these cards are quite expensive nowadays (for this very reason 😀 )

1 x PLCC-68 / 2 x PGA132 / 5 x Skt 3 / 9 x Skt 7 / 12 x SS7 / 1 x Skt 8 / 14 x Slot 1 / 5 x Slot A
5 x Skt 370 / 8 x Skt A / 2 x Skt 478 / 2 x Skt 754 / 3 x Skt 939 / 7 x LGA775 / 1 x LGA1155
Current PC: Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Backup PC: Core i7 7700k

Reply 22 of 22, by RiP

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-08-19, 11:29:
For SS7 AGP my experience is the following (all cards listed in order of performance) […]
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For SS7 AGP my experience is the following (all cards listed in order of performance)

Works fine:
-Intel i740
-TNT2 M64
-Matrox G200
-Savage4
-TNT2
-Rage 128
-Matrox G400

Gamble:
-Rage 128 PRO
-TNT2 Ultra
-Radeon SDR
-GeForce 256 SDR
-Radeon DDR
-GeForce 256 DDR
-GeForce2 MX

Radeon didn't work for me too.