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Reply 180 of 185, by Kahenraz

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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-01-23, 17:43:
RayeR wrote on 2024-01-23, 17:10:
OK, this is really old ver. I wonder it already supports GF3. I used such low versions with TNT2 these days... Maybe you can try […]
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Sphere478 wrote on 2024-01-22, 04:22:

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OK, this is really old ver. I wonder it already supports GF3. I used such low versions with TNT2 these days...
Maybe you can try something a bit newer 1x.xx-3x.xx.
How exactly it doesn't work? Also have you installed latest AGP drivers for chipset? I remember that those crappy chipsets + AGP was a pain in the....

That driver is the one that gets the best frame rates, trying to get it to work

I can confirm that older drivers perform significantly better with the GeForce 3, especially on Socket 7 systems.

This is why I also take a lot of modern retro benchmarks with a grain of salt, as they tend to compare cards using the latest drivers, which often puts the older cards at a serious disadvantage.

I have done extensive testing on this.

Are there any NVIDIA drivers between 21.83 and 23.11?

Newer drivers are not always better on older hardware (especially without SSE):

Kahenraz wrote on 2021-10-03, 10:04:

I've finally managed to track down the cause of the driver instability I've been experiencing since version 56.64 in my testing. It comes down to Nvidia having a different code path for SSE-enabled processors or a bug introduced by a new optimization. This can be demonstrated exactly by the T&L demo with the missing light.

When testing any Pentium 2 or "Mendocino" Celeron, the light model disappears, graphical glitches begin to occur, and drivers overall become unstable. But without changing any drivers I swapped my CPU for a Coppermine and suddenly everything renders properly and the drivers become stable.

On a similar note, the Dawn demo will crash when run without a processor that supports SSE but only on NT 2000 or higher. It will still crash on Windows 98/ME even with SSE, but this may be for a different reason.

NVIDIA GeForce FX driver testing on an Intel 440EX summary and report

Reply 181 of 185, by Jose_Luis

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supercordo wrote on 2024-06-24, 22:09:
Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 16:48:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-11-19, 20:38:
I’m starting a new build using this beauty of a motherboard made by freeway […]
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I’m starting a new build using this beauty of a motherboard made by freeway

I’ll use this thread as a build log

Here is some info on it from Jan

Manual:

Hello,

Does anybody know how to configurate jumpers in that motherboard for 100x5.5=550MHZ for a K6-III+/550. It's the manual jumper setting for a maximum of 500MHz?.

The switch settings are writen on the board.

Hi, thanks for your answer but that motherboard is newer than mine, it's Freeway Fw-5vgf+ ultra. I haven't got 5.5x settings.

Reply 182 of 185, by Sphere478

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Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 23:23:
supercordo wrote on 2024-06-24, 22:09:
Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 16:48:

Hello,

Does anybody know how to configurate jumpers in that motherboard for 100x5.5=550MHZ for a K6-III+/550. It's the manual jumper setting for a maximum of 500MHz?.

The switch settings are writen on the board.

Hi, thanks for your answer but that motherboard is newer than mine, it's Freeway Fw-5vgf+ ultra. I haven't got 5.5x settings.

It is on the board on both versions, I have both and am looking at them both right now. The settings are the same for multi

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/freeway-fw-5vgf-ultra

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Reply 183 of 185, by supercordo

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Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 23:23:
supercordo wrote on 2024-06-24, 22:09:
Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 16:48:

Hello,

Does anybody know how to configurate jumpers in that motherboard for 100x5.5=550MHZ for a K6-III+/550. It's the manual jumper setting for a maximum of 500MHz?.

The switch settings are writen on the board.

Hi, thanks for your answer but that motherboard is newer than mine, it's Freeway Fw-5vgf+ ultra. I haven't got 5.5x settings.

Do you have the Ultra or none Ultra version?

Reply 184 of 185, by RayeR

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-06-24, 22:27:

I can confirm that older drivers perform significantly better with the GeForce 3, especially on Socket 7 systems.
This is why I also take a lot of modern retro benchmarks with a grain of salt, as they tend to compare cards using the latest drivers, which often puts the older cards at a serious disadvantage.

OK, it makes sense that adding support for more GPUs and new features also increase some code overhead but FPS is not only one criteria. We usually want most of features, less bugs and graphics glitches and good performance, so probably the 1st alpha/beta driver may not be good choice too. Need to pick some optimal version somewhere between... Also newer drivers may use instructions that old CPUs don't support...

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Reply 185 of 185, by Jose_Luis

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supercordo wrote on 2024-06-24, 22:09:
Jose_Luis wrote on 2024-06-24, 16:48:
Sphere478 wrote on 2021-11-19, 20:38:
I’m starting a new build using this beauty of a motherboard made by freeway […]
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I’m starting a new build using this beauty of a motherboard made by freeway

I’ll use this thread as a build log

Here is some info on it from Jan

Manual:

Hello,

Does anybody know how to configurate jumpers in that motherboard for 100x5.5=550MHZ for a K6-III+/550. It's the manual jumper setting for a maximum of 500MHz?.

The switch settings are written on the board.

Hi,
Thanks for your answer. You're right even though the manual shows settings until 500MHz, the board has got printed settings to 550MHz. I changed it and works to 550MHz now.