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Reply 20 of 33, by PeterLI

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You cannot use a sound card as an IDE HDD controller.

Reply 21 of 33, by ahendricks18

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Well, I guess Ill buy a real ide controller. Is the maxtor brand good? Also how would i boot from the hdd on the ide controller?

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Reply 22 of 33, by PeterLI

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1: You need to be able to disable the MOBO IDE controller.
2: IDE is IDE. Brands do not matter. I recommend a cheap ISA I/O card with IDE/FDD and so on.

Reply 23 of 33, by ahendricks18

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Would i disable the ide in the bios or with jumpers?

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Reply 24 of 33, by PeterLI

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Jumpers or BIOS. What is the exact model # of your PB again?

Reply 25 of 33, by ahendricks18

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it says legend supreme 730 on the case but in the bios it says pb400

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Reply 27 of 33, by ahendricks18

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No, I found this: stason.org/TULARC/pc/motherboards/P/PACKARD-BELL-486-PB400-4MB.html. This best matches my motherboard.

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Reply 28 of 33, by smeezekitty

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I don't have lots of experience with really old PCs but maybe this means i can do something to specify the hdd on the sound card?

That is only for drive geometry. I don't know of any sound card that supports IDE hard drives (at least not with with standard drivers/BIOS support)

Reply 29 of 33, by Sutekh94

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That system was more than likely made before hard drive auto-detection was a thing. You will have to manually enter the drive geometry into the BIOS. And yeah, I've never heard of a sound card that can support IDE hard drives, or SCSI hard drives for that matter.

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Reply 30 of 33, by devius

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Usually the geometry information is printed on the HDD label. I had a Compaq Presario 510CDS which also didn't have HDD auto-detection. If the drive parameters are entered incorrectly in the BIOS setup screen the HDD won't boot.

Also, why are you trying to disable the motherboard's built-in IDE controller? What's wrong with it?

Reply 31 of 33, by JayCeeBee64

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You will find the answer here (just read the whole thread):

found an old packard bell!

I still can't believe what ahendricks18 did to that Packard Bell mobo 😐

Ooohh, the pain......

Reply 32 of 33, by devius

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"Ooohh, the pain......" indeed!

Another option is to get a male IDE connector from a dead motherboard and solder it in the place of the broken one.

But, yeah the IDE connector on any sound card can only be used to connect a CD-ROM drive and only a single device can be connected. These interfaces are very basic and don't even have support for master/slave drives. In fact, I never tested this, but it's almost certain that performance of these sound card controllers is pretty bad. Remember that these were produced when CD-ROM drives were transfering between 150 ~ 600KB/s.

Reply 33 of 33, by King_Corduroy

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JayCeeBee64 wrote:

You will find the answer here (just read the whole thread):

found an old packard bell!

I still can't believe what ahendricks18 did to that Packard Bell mobo 😐

I know... I don't even know how he managed to do that!

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