kixs wrote on 2022-01-20, 19:59:

and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86:

Cool, I'll take three!

edit: Wait, I see no cache 🙁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Xpk54_H20

I'll take this one... https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/6087

Nice sound card time 😀

Terratec Maestro 32/96

CS4232 plus Dream SAM9233 goodness. Hope it's a bit nicer in the driver department than my EWS64XL...

I bought the CMI8330(A) because I read good things about this card on the forums. However, I bought an AWE32 soon after, and now this card will be put on the shelf along with his mates, which don’t have a home for the moment.

Bought a nice 386DX-40 motherboard with ram/cache/NPU included.
It's a Bioteq MB-1333/40UCQ-B. And the NPU is IIT 8c387-40 😀

The battery is GP, not Varta. It's still nice and shiny, no corrosion or salts deposits.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-20, 21:01:

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kixs wrote on 2022-01-20, 19:59:

and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86:

Cool, I'll take three!

edit: Wait, I see no cache 🙁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Xpk54_H20

I'll take this one... https://www.ultimateretro.net/en/motherboards/6087

Yeah, cache would be nice... but if it's says Cyrix... I'm sold 😁

I've tested it and it works fine 😀 All "jumpers" are already fixed so it runs 3x33 = 100MHz.

I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing the P3-s 1.4 I have in there along with more ram, I have a Dell 20" LCD and Dell Keyboard and Mouse for it so it'll be a complete setup.

Has a Late model i815 board, FX5200 and SB Live in it .. Ill keep the Live but that 5200 is getting retired for a Ti 4600 or a Voodoo4 4500 .. not sure yet which, also going to throw a PCI Sata card in it and upgrade it to a SSD, and possibly add more USB 2.0 ports.

some pics

The question I have for anyone in the know, what is the slightly longer PCI looking slot, is it a standard PCI with extra power pins ?

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 11:16:

I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing th […]
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I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing the P3-s 1.4 I have in there along with more ram, I have a Dell 20" LCD and Dell Keyboard and Mouse for it so it'll be a complete setup.

Has a Late model i815 board, FX5200 and SB Live in it .. Ill keep the Live but that 5200 is getting retired for a Ti 4600 or a Voodoo4 4500 .. not sure yet which, also going to throw a PCI Sata card in it and upgrade it to a SSD, and possibly add more USB 2.0 ports.

some pics

s-l1600.jpg

s-l1600 (1).jpg

s-l1600 (2).jpg

The question I have for anyone in the know, what is the slightly longer PCI looking slot, is it a standard PCI with extra power pins ?

Was that the one listed on eBay AU? I recall the seller said he put the motherboard into a different Dell case - the Precision 360 is a P4 class machine.

Quick google shows that the P3 motherboard is probably the one for the Optiplex GX150, and the long slot is for a riser card, which is not used in the tower config (page 11) - https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-produc … guide_en-us.pdf

JidaiGeki wrote on 2022-01-21, 11:50:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 11:16:

I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing th […]
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I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing the P3-s 1.4 I have in there along with more ram, I have a Dell 20" LCD and Dell Keyboard and Mouse for it so it'll be a complete setup.

Has a Late model i815 board, FX5200 and SB Live in it .. Ill keep the Live but that 5200 is getting retired for a Ti 4600 or a Voodoo4 4500 .. not sure yet which, also going to throw a PCI Sata card in it and upgrade it to a SSD, and possibly add more USB 2.0 ports.

some pics

s-l1600.jpg

s-l1600 (1).jpg

s-l1600 (2).jpg

The question I have for anyone in the know, what is the slightly longer PCI looking slot, is it a standard PCI with extra power pins ?

Was that the one listed on eBay AU? I recall the seller said he put the motherboard into a different Dell case - the Precision 360 is a P4 class machine.

Quick google shows that the P3 motherboard is probably the one for the Optiplex GX150, and the long slot is for a riser card, which is not used in the tower config (page 11) - https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-produc … guide_en-us.pdf

Thanks for that, didn't know the board was swapped but I wouldn't have bought the P4 in any case, I have a soft spot for P3s, the listing does say only the front facia was changed on this machine as the original was scratched up badly, I assumed that since they switched the facia the machines were likely the same, nothing listed about motherboards getting swapped, its all good tho another Tualatin compatible machine is great.

I live in Australia so this was an easy buy, shipping PCs from the US or EU is ..a no no

Wonder if the riser slot can be used for anything else, is it electrically a PCI slot ..hmm

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 12:17:

Thanks for that, didn't know the board was swapped but I wouldn't have bought the P4 in any case, I have a soft spot for P3s, th […]
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JidaiGeki wrote on 2022-01-21, 11:50:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 11:16:

I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing th […]
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I couldn't resist and bought a second Tualatin system, this time a Dell Precision P3 Tualatin Celeron 1.3, I will be throwing the P3-s 1.4 I have in there along with more ram, I have a Dell 20" LCD and Dell Keyboard and Mouse for it so it'll be a complete setup.

Has a Late model i815 board, FX5200 and SB Live in it .. Ill keep the Live but that 5200 is getting retired for a Ti 4600 or a Voodoo4 4500 .. not sure yet which, also going to throw a PCI Sata card in it and upgrade it to a SSD, and possibly add more USB 2.0 ports.

some pics

s-l1600.jpg

s-l1600 (1).jpg

s-l1600 (2).jpg

The question I have for anyone in the know, what is the slightly longer PCI looking slot, is it a standard PCI with extra power pins ?

Was that the one listed on eBay AU? I recall the seller said he put the motherboard into a different Dell case - the Precision 360 is a P4 class machine.

Quick google shows that the P3 motherboard is probably the one for the Optiplex GX150, and the long slot is for a riser card, which is not used in the tower config (page 11) - https://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-produc … guide_en-us.pdf

Thanks for that, didn't know the board was swapped but I wouldn't have bought the P4 in any case, I have a soft spot for P3s, the listing does say only the front facia was changed on this machine as the original was scratched up badly, I assumed that since they switched the facia the machines were likely the same, nothing listed about motherboards getting swapped, its all good tho another Tualatin compatible machine is great.

I live in Australia so this was an easy buy, shipping PCs from the US or EU is ..a no no

Wonder if the riser slot can be used for anything else, is it electrically a PCI slot ..hmm

Cool, I saw that listing and knew there was a swap of something, but yeah the motherboard does look native to the case. I’m Down Under too btw 😉

Kahenraz wrote on 2022-01-19, 04:07:

I wish I'd bought a Voodoo 5 years ago. At this point I'll probably have to trade for one. I can't afford these prices.

I bought a Voodoo 5 before Christmas last year from Greece, he was selling it for £219 and I asked him for a discount as I thought it was too much. He said no and I bought it anyway, so glad I did as looking at the prices on eBay...

kixs wrote on 2022-01-20, 19:59:

and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86: […]
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and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86:

Nothing tested so far... but I hope everything is functional - it better be! 🤣

That 486 board is so strange! No jumpers, and the "Aladdin" marking makes it even more interesting, especially since ALi's M1487/9 is the FinALi chipset, not the Aladdin. Plus that SUPER late chipset date of almost 1997...just wow! I wonder if it supports EDO?

If you benchmark it, please share results! This is a really well-thought-out board. And a weird one.

How cool! Gotta love anything Cyrix!

Yah, I was trying to look that board up but kept getting swamped with socket 7 aladdin chipset boards... and google is so damn hard to work around now, search for an R7 260 for example and it will tell you that you wanted to look for R7 260x, no you say "R7 260" (Which quotes should be like sudo search for the exact damn phrase) and it will be all "showing results for R7 260x, search instead for R7 260" and you click that and 90% of the results are STILL R7 260x. Holy F'ing F to the Fth google, do what I say dammit. I was calling this artificial stupidity, but it's worse than that now, it's idiotically stubborn artificial stupidity.

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-21, 19:05:

Yah, I was trying to look that board up but kept getting swamped with socket 7 aladdin chipset boards... and google is so damn hard to work around now, search for an R7 260 for example and it will tell you that you wanted to look for R7 260x, no you say "R7 260" (Which quotes should be like sudo search for the exact damn phrase) and it will be all "showing results for R7 260x, search instead for R7 260" and you click that and 90% of the results are STILL R7 260x. Holy F'ing F to the Fth google, do what I say dammit. I was calling this artificial stupidity, but it's worse than that now, it's idiotically stubborn artificial stupidity.

Ah jeez, yeah, I can imagine. Maybe trying an advanced search with Boolean operators would help? I’ve found that helps in the past.

I couldn’t find anything about this board in the 32 seconds I spent looking; it must be some Acer Labs OEM part? I’m going to continue to investigate later…

BitWrangler wrote on 2022-01-21, 19:05:

Yah, I was trying to look that board up but kept getting swamped with socket 7 aladdin chipset boards... and google is so damn hard to work around now, search for an R7 260 for example and it will tell you that you wanted to look for R7 260x, no you say "R7 260" (Which quotes should be like sudo search for the exact damn phrase) and it will be all "showing results for R7 260x, search instead for R7 260" and you click that and 90% of the results are STILL R7 260x. Holy F'ing F to the Fth google, do what I say dammit. I was calling this artificial stupidity, but it's worse than that now, it's idiotically stubborn artificial stupidity.

Try Duck Duck go, it uses google but filters out all the shit google injects into their search results .. like promoted results and shit, I tend to use it when doing specific searches.

WJG6260 wrote on 2022-01-21, 19:22:

Ah jeez, yeah, I can imagine. Maybe trying an advanced search with Boolean operators would help? I’ve found that helps in the past.

None of the old advanced search operators work any more. Been gone for 5+ years now. God I miss the dig down too, search inside these results.

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 19:29:

Try Duck Duck go, it uses google but filters out all the shit google injects into their search results .. like promoted results and shit, I tend to use it when doing specific searches.

That's Startpage. Duck Duck uses as far as I know uses it's own search engine.

kixs wrote on 2022-01-20, 19:59:

What the Postman delivered today? :D […]
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What the Postman delivered today? :D

AMD K6-III+ 400Mhz
Cyrix 486DRx2-25/50 with heatsink in a nice condition (PGA132 386DX compatible upgrade chip)

and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86:

Nothing tested so far... but I hope everything is functional - it better be! :lol:

Can you dump the BIOS please?

WJG6260 wrote on 2022-01-21, 18:24:

That 486 board is so strange! No jumpers, and the "Aladdin" marking makes it even more interesting, especially since ALi's M1487 […]
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kixs wrote on 2022-01-20, 19:59:

and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86: […]
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and an "ultra" small 486 PCI motherboard with onboard Cyrix 5x86:

Nothing tested so far... but I hope everything is functional - it better be! 🤣

That 486 board is so strange! No jumpers, and the "Aladdin" marking makes it even more interesting, especially since ALi's M1487/9 is the FinALi chipset, not the Aladdin. Plus that SUPER late chipset date of almost 1997...just wow! I wonder if it supports EDO?

If you benchmark it, please share results! This is a really well-thought-out board. And a weird one.

How cool! Gotta love anything Cyrix!

Board supports EDO memory. Overall the lack of cache shows on the performance - by guess it's just around 486DX2-80. EDO helps a bit as performance increases by around 10%. But this depends on the benchmark/app/game.

BurnedPinguin wrote on 2022-01-21, 22:45:

Can you dump the BIOS please?

Sure. As it's still on my test desk... BIOS settings are pretty basic too.

I've got yet another ASUS P5A on the way. This one is version 1.04. Sold as working when it was pulled out of a system sometime in the past.

Maybe the 4th time is a charm. Still need to try recapping the other 3.

Sad that the P5A seems way more likely to die than the P5A-B, which has the CPU socket in the worst possible place. I have at least 3 working P5A-B boards, all of which I either got really cheap or as part of a scrap lot.

In fact, I still have yet to get a dead P5A-B.

RandomStranger wrote on 2022-01-21, 20:14:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-01-21, 19:29:

Try Duck Duck go, it uses google but filters out all the shit google injects into their search results .. like promoted results and shit, I tend to use it when doing specific searches.

That's Startpage. Duck Duck uses as far as I know uses it's own search engine.

At one point they were using google search algos and simply removing all the google tracking, advertising and ranking crap out of it, seems they now use their own, interesting.

Ill add Startpage to my list too, I stil luse google from time to time as it does give more results if Im hunting for something.