I know at least two. Siemens Scenic Mobile 710 had ESS ES690F. Another one is Compaq Armada 7710MT also with same wavetable synthesizer chip onboard.
There were also laptops that natively supported MPU-401 port in DOS through game port.
What's the difference between these and Toshiba 2805 with Yamaha 754 that can't give GM under DOS? Toshiba also has a wavetable synthesizer chip onboard.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324674151608
486, 640x480 with ES688 (but optional)
Doom is what you want (c) MAZter
Okay, despite WSS sound I still bought it. Just wanted old fat laptop.
Toshiba T4700CT
Everything works fine, all parts original, even power cord. Only floppy drive produce screaming sounds and can’t find floppy…
Bought it as dead, p30 error. But there is a fix guide on YouTube, need to replace capacitor.
Sweet... and I've been looking out for one of those trackballs forever.
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
What is that trackball (it looks awesome) and does it help your high score in minesweeper?
vorob wrote on 2021-06-27, 10:48:Okay, despite WSS sound I still bought it. Just wanted old fat laptop. […]
Okay, despite WSS sound I still bought it. Just wanted old fat laptop.
Toshiba T4700CT
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Everything works fine, all parts original, even power cord. Only floppy drive produce screaming sounds and can’t find floppy…
Bought it as dead, p30 error. But there is a fix guide on YouTube, need to replace capacitor.
Those are nice. I'm not letting WSS get me down about the Versa M/75 which is still in the lead for me as my personal best vintage laptop. I'm jumping at one of those PCMCIA boards YYZKevin is working on when/if they become available - then in a way were at a massive advantage because WSS + SoundBlaster + OPL, so the best of all three in a portable form factor.
I think I looked at the exact laptop you have at one point. Those ballpoint mice are nice. I used to have one on a Compaq Portable 486C I got from a Microsoft colleague years ago (and sold to a member of VCFED who had the screen to properly restore it). The Ultralite Versa's also had those packed-in with them, it seems NEC copied the design for their own VersaTrak because the VersaTrak identifies itself to SysChk as a "Microsoft Ballpoint Mouse", 🤣.
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No pics but I had 2 quite nice Toshiba 430CDT(?) I think, which both died, nice machines and both still held a good charge.
Currently resurrected a HP Omnibook 2000CT which is running great, had to do some considerable repairs to the hinges but it's all good now, 2+ hours battery life on the original cells!
Mainly use a Libretto 110CT though - a very rare config with 96MB RAM expansion and overclocked to 266MHz - fantastic little machine with a lovely screen
- 486DX2-66, SoundBlaster 16, Crystal VLB graphics
- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo 1, AD1816
- PIII 933MHz, MSI MS6119, Voodoo3 3000, SB Live!
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500, SB Audigy
creepingnet wrote on 2021-06-28, 15:42:I'm jumping at one of those PCMCIA boards YYZKevin is working on when/if they become available - then in a way were at a massive advantage because WSS + SoundBlaster + OPL, so the best of all three in a portable form factor.
Sir, what are you talking about? Someone is doing an FPGA PCMCIA sound board for old laptop? I NEEED IT I NEEED IT. Tell me everything 😀
vorob wrote on 2021-06-28, 18:51:creepingnet wrote on 2021-06-28, 15:42:I'm jumping at one of those PCMCIA boards YYZKevin is working on when/if they become available - then in a way were at a massive advantage because WSS + SoundBlaster + OPL, so the best of all three in a portable form factor.
Sir, what are you talking about? Someone is doing an FPGA PCMCIA sound board for old laptop? I NEEED IT I NEEED IT. Tell me everything 😀
It's this thread -Newly made PCMCIA sound card - aka "New PCMCIA SoundCard"
Just a little history on the thread. The thread was started by someone else I think years ago. I found the thread myself this year looking for an Adlib compatible card for my M/75 that might be easier to find, or see if someone was working on one. Turns out the OP of the thread (whose name escapes me) abandoned the original project, and YYZKevin was starting work on some kind of PCMCIA multi-device dock dealie for a specific smaller device. Then through demand apparently he split the project into a PCMCIA sound card project after some VERY minor drama (I stepped away from the thread at that time because I felt bad about inquiring).
One thing with WSS I'm trying to figure out myself is how to get WSSXLAT.EXE working. It appears someone on YouTube got it working with a Compaq SLT with WSS and Wolfenstein 3D.
There are some games that do work in native DOS with WSS, these are all on my Versa M
- Shivers (Sierra)
- Hoyle Classic Card Games
- Leisure Suit Larry 6
- Freddy Pharkas Frontier Pharmacist (talkie and regular)
- Under a Killing Moon
- Settlers II
- Tyrian 2000 (though it hangs on my M/75 for some reason with WSS enabled)
- Grand Theft Auto
- GTA: London
- Some Versions of MAME do too
I've also heard of some version of 7th Guest that works with WSS but the version I have does not have that driver on it. Not sure how that is. SoundBlaster stuff does work in Windows 95 as 9x installs a driver for DOS SoundBlaster emulation.
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Faced an issue, in some applications, when screen flash occurs, I see random dots. I don’t understand why it happens. Take a look, DOOM, upper part of screen, when I pickup items random white dots appear on top. Tank Wars, when explosion happens random dots appear all over the screen.
Forgot to mention important thing, same dots appear on external screen!
Maybe something here will help, diagnostics etc.... https://support.dynabook.com/support/modelHom … Text=1073769828
Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.
Awful picture - apologies. It might not be THE perfect retro laptop but it is a really cool one.
Libretto 110CT - overclocked to 300MHz with a 75MHz bus, 96MB RAM courtesy of a modified Portege RAM module and a 60GB HDD. Just finished it all up today and slightly buzzing it all actually works
They must be rare with these upgrades… anyone else got or seen similar?
- 486DX2-66, SoundBlaster 16, Crystal VLB graphics
- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo 1, AD1816
- PIII 933MHz, MSI MS6119, Voodoo3 3000, SB Live!
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500, SB Audigy
BitWrangler wrote on 2021-06-30, 21:00:Maybe something here will help, diagnostics etc.... https://support.dynabook.com/support/modelHom … Text=1073769828
The diagnostic tool didn't help. It just shows fonts, colors, memory tests, and so on. Everything is fine. I do have an old bios, but I can't flash new one since I don't have floppy drive 🙁
britain4 wrote on 2021-06-30, 22:44:Libretto 110CT - overclocked to 300MHz with a 75MHz bus
Wow - can you share the info on overclocking to 75Mhz bus? I've a 110CT @ 266, base RAM.
Maybe there is a video memory test tool for ancient videocard?
UPD: moved to a separate thread: Weird noise artifacts on an old laptop, need help
Byrd wrote on 2021-07-01, 10:00:britain4 wrote on 2021-06-30, 22:44:Libretto 110CT - overclocked to 300MHz with a 75MHz bus
Wow - can you share the info on overclocking to 75Mhz bus? I've a 110CT @ 266, base RAM.
Sure - I’ve posted a Zip pack with all the lost info I managed to dig up on them in another thread: Toshiba Libretto 100CT / 110CT tutorials - 96MB RAM, 300MHz
If you’re following the above guide, I used a 47k resistor for 1.65 ish core voltage in the “adjusting CPU voltage” file to get mine running stable
- 486DX2-66, SoundBlaster 16, Crystal VLB graphics
- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo 1, AD1816
- PIII 933MHz, MSI MS6119, Voodoo3 3000, SB Live!
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500, SB Audigy
My pipe dream for old LCD panels.
Guys, I'm thinking about how to bring files to T4700CT. Floppy dude is dead and taking HDD in and out is a mess. I bought a PCMCIA CF card reader on Ali (https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005002328839062.html) price was a joke so I wasn't thinking. But now wonder if such a thing will work in DOS on such an ancient machine? Do I need special drivers or such thing will work with something generic one?
