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Reply 55980 of 57318, by Kahenraz

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This reminds me of the time I bought a large lot of ATI Rage XL cards. This is how it shipped. A couple cards had electrolyte and ceramic capacitors broken off. The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I had already negotiated a bulk discount before being offered a partial discount for the damage. I managed to repair all of the affected cards, so it ended up being a great deal in the end.

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Reply 55981 of 57318, by Veeb0rg

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:44:
Yeah, I actually asked him after the sale if it seemed like you were buying them for scrap or to reuse. He said it did seem like […]
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Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:33:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-04, 01:53:

Man, that's sad to see. It definitely wasn't that damaged in the listing pictures. I was talking to that seller and he was in the process of getting it pulled out of the scrap lot so it would be packaged separately and protected in shipping... then the lot sold while I was waiting for him and his hands were tied. 🤷

Hope you can find parts for it though. Definitely check it over thoroughly, especially for scrapes on the PCB or any broken traces that could cause shorts.

Guess that was me. 🤣. He could have still packed it nicely even after it sold. The PCB looks ok its just got a bunch of knocked off caps and the coils. I did send them a message when I bought it asking them to pack things better but they never responded. The motherboard/cpu and hdd did end up working which holds hope the voodoo will do after repairs.

Yeah, I actually asked him after the sale if it seemed like you were buying them for scrap or to reuse. He said it did seem like you wanted to use them for something, so I suggested that he protect that board so that it doesn't get destroyed. Even if I didn't get it I still didn't want a Voodoo5 to get trashed. 🤷

After that exchange it's disappointing that he didn't pack anything around it... especially if you asked. That lot was easily listed at 3-4 times the scrap value since most of the weight was in a few big bulky copper coils, which aren't even worth shipping. Most likely those are what caused the damage in the first place, which is why I wanted the card out of the lot. Too bad really.

Anyway, hopefully you can either find a modern replacement for those broken coils or find a donor card that isn't also really valuable and rare. Let us know if you get it working. 😀

actually those were in the bottom of the box, it was the the hdd that was up against the face of the voodoo that did all the damage. They were vertical so every time the box moved they bounced off each other. The heatsinks seem to have held the drive far enough away so the PCB didn't get mauled just the stuff that was taller then them. None of the pads seem to have been ripped off so hopefully its just a simple parts replacement. (assuming it worked previous)

absolutely agree that if it wasn't for that card that lot wouldn't have been worth nearly as much. I think the coils are electrically fine they're just broken. I've got a few other pcb's around here that I'm going to hunt to see if I can find replacements and I'll keep an eye out for suitable replacements on ebay.

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Reply 55983 of 57318, by Trashbytes

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Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

Reply 55985 of 57318, by Trashbytes

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Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

This reminds me of the time I bought a large lot of ATI Rage XL cards. This is how it shipped. A couple cards had electrolyte and ceramic capacitors broken off. The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I had already negotiated a bulk discount before being offered a partial discount for the damage. I managed to repair all of the affected cards, so it ended up being a great deal in the end.

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Thats a lot of Rage right there, what did you do with them once repaired ? Sell them ?

Reply 55986 of 57318, by Veeb0rg

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:45:
Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

putting together an order on mouser now, just not sure on the specs for the 4.7 coils and google is being no help so far.

Reply 55987 of 57318, by Trashbytes

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Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-04, 08:42:
Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:45:
Veeb0rg wrote on 2025-02-03, 18:29:

I bought a scrap lot off ebay cause I saw something in the photo listings, an AGP Voodoo 5. Sadly it was packed loose with the other parts and now needs some repairs. Anyone know of a source for the 4.7 coils? It will need some work but hopefully can be saved if not by myself then someone else.

Oh my, why would anyone do that to a Voodoo5.

I really hope you can get it repaired.

putting together an order on mouser now, just not sure on the specs for the 4.7 coils and google is being no help so far.

Might have to get some donor coils, Ive seen them used on other cards.

May even be able to replace them with more modern equivalents.

I dont know if Osckhar still does Voodoo 5 repairs but he may be able to help you out if you try contacting him.

https://picclick.fr/seller/osckhar

Reply 55988 of 57318, by Veeb0rg

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 08:45:
Might have to get some donor coils, Ive seen them used on other cards. […]
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Might have to get some donor coils, Ive seen them used on other cards.

May even be able to replace them with more modern equivalents.

I dont know if Osckhar still does Voodoo 5 repairs but he may be able to help you out if you try contacting him.

https://picclick.fr/seller/osckhar

He still has active listings on ebay. I sent him a message. Hopefully he can help.

Reply 55989 of 57318, by PcBytes

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More updates:

- received the BX133-RAID. Seems it's one of the rare versions where it has had newer Jackcon caps installed by ABIT ~2004. They seem to be fine even tho I have zero trust in 'em. Will recap sometime later. Came with 933MHz P3.

- scrapper added another goodie to the list of gems I selected - DFI AK70 + Athlon 750MHz combo.

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Reply 55990 of 57318, by Trashbytes

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 12:13:

More updates:

- received the BX133-RAID. Seems it's one of the rare versions where it has had newer Jackcon caps installed by ABIT ~2004. They seem to be fine even tho I have zero trust in 'em. Will recap sometime later. Came with 933MHz P3.

- scrapper added another goodie to the list of gems I selected - DFI AK70 + Athlon 750MHz combo.

I need to get a scrapper friend like yours.

Reply 55991 of 57318, by dormcat

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Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I found this particularly ironic. Theoretically testing vintage electronics requires much higher levels of knowledge and equipment than packing fragile goods with protective material prior to shipping. Theoretically. 🙄

Reply 55992 of 57318, by Kahenraz

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-02-04, 07:47:
Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

This reminds me of the time I bought a large lot of ATI Rage XL cards. This is how it shipped. A couple cards had electrolyte and ceramic capacitors broken off. The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I had already negotiated a bulk discount before being offered a partial discount for the damage. I managed to repair all of the affected cards, so it ended up being a great deal in the end.

Thats a lot of Rage right there, what did you do with them once repaired ? Sell them ?

I'm just hoarding them for now. This is my favorite PCI graphics card, because of it's wide-ranging driver compatibility and features. I now have enough for anything I might throw at it, plus plenty of extras. It's not the most compatible or fastest choice for every situation, but it ticks the most boxes at an affordable price.

They don't have much value and aren't worth reselling. Plus, there seems to be an endless supply of reproduction cards coming out of China at the moment. I wanted to buy the original ATI cards, which are a bit more uncommon. I found these from a recycler and made an offer to buy them in bulk. It's cheaper to do this than buying them up individually, when I want to stock up on a card I like.

I don't need this many. I've found that it's often better to make an offer on a whole lot, to get the best deal across individual units.

One of the plans I do have is to pair them with a collection of 430TX motherboards I also bought in bulk years ago. I'm trying to get a set of add-on cards that is equivalent for each board. I might sell each as a set for collectors at some point in the future. There is no AGP on these boards, so this is the card I settled on out of the competition.

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Reply 55993 of 57318, by Kahenraz

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dormcat wrote on 2025-02-04, 15:39:
Kahenraz wrote on 2025-02-04, 05:51:

The seller even tested them all prior to shipping and still sent them out like this.

I found this particularly ironic. Theoretically testing vintage electronics requires much higher levels of knowledge and equipment than packing fragile goods with protective material prior to shipping. Theoretically. 🙄

Yes, it blew my mind to receive them sloshing around in the box like this. The seller seemed to have some concept, as there were two "layers" of cards with a sheet of anti-static material sandwiched between them, like a slice of cheese.

Reply 55994 of 57318, by AGP4LIfe?

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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

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Reply 55995 of 57318, by debs3759

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AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:
Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

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Reply 55996 of 57318, by AGP4LIfe?

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debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:
AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:
Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Who decides what truth is, and what is their objective? Today’s falseness can reappear as tomorrow’s truth.

Reply 55997 of 57318, by Kahenraz

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Those pins look like they've seen better days.

Reply 55998 of 57318, by debs3759

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AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:59:
debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:
AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:33:
Found something hiding. I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engin […]
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Found something hiding.
I'm not interested because its older than my choice of era for collecting/ using, but I found this engineering sample in a scrap lot on ebay if someone wants to try and buy it off of them. Idk if your allowed to post links or [do this kind of talk here] to evilbay so DM me for the link.
Just hoping someone wants to save it from the scrapper.

Looks like a Type Intel Pentium 133 MHz A80502-133* Engineering Sample

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Thanks. That's a consumer spec (SK106J), so not an engineering sample. No idea what the ES means on those chips, but I know a lot of people aren't aware of the misleading marking

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 55999 of 57318, by AGP4LIfe?

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debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 18:11:
AGP4LIfe? wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:59:
debs3759 wrote on 2025-02-04, 16:49:

Can you post a bigger photo so I can read the text? A lot of CPUs of the era had ES marked on them, but weren't engineering samples. This looks like one of them, but my eyesight is not good enough any more to read the spec code, that looks like it starts with SX.

This is as good as I can do, the picture was already a bad resolution.

The attachment Pentium ES.png is no longer available

Thanks. That's a consumer spec (SK106J), so not an engineering sample. No idea what the ES means on those chips, but I know a lot of people aren't aware of the misleading marking

Good to know!

Who decides what truth is, and what is their objective? Today’s falseness can reappear as tomorrow’s truth.