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Reply 60 of 62, by H3nrik V!

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It's not super fast on a 486, though 🤣

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 61 of 62, by pshipkov

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NT4 may be a bit too much for a 486 machine, but it also depends on what you do on that machine, if anything really - other than the sporadic run to commemorate the good old times.

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Reply 62 of 62, by red-ray

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-04-22, 14:40:

It's not super fast on a 486, though 🤣

Well done for hanging on in there and getting it working, wait 'till you try it on a faster i486. On my AMD Am5x86-WT @ 160MHz the save took 4:10 as compared to 13:15 on your 486 SX-WT @ 25MHz.

I wonder if NT4 always has issues on very early i486 such as your 486DX-25 SX308 CPUID 0401 which NT reports as Stepping B0, has anyone managed to get NT stable on this CPU?

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Given the system booted and SIV started it must be close to being stable.

I also just noticed https://www.geoffchappell.com/studies/windows … htm?tx=42,61;59 says C0 is reported when there is no FPU and B0 when reading dr4 causes Invalid Opcode exception. I now just need to see A0 for a full set.

The Model + Stepping in the SYSTEM_PROCESSOR_INFORMATION for CPUs without CPUID looks to be different to the Model + Stepping returned by CPUID. Now that I have figured this out I have changed SIV to say Model + Stepping.

I now just need to find out how to tell if the CPU is AMD or Intel, I wonder what happens with UMOV on your SX308 and SX406, to find out do SIV32L -DBGCPU -EXIT=10 > SIV_DBGOUT.log | MORE and look at the .log file once SIV has exited.

Update: From SIV V5.81 Beta-05 you can check Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 on both Windows NT and Windows 9x systems.

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