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Dual Core CPUs on Intel i915 and i925 chipsets

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Reply 60 of 65, by VictorRocks

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A 945 Chipset would be a better option officially for Dual Core CPU'S.

Reply 61 of 65, by lixkote

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Vlad94 wrote on 2024-03-12, 07:31:
Ohh thanks for that! I had same problem with HD5850 on that board (after all i won't use that GPU but Crossfired HD4850's :D), b […]
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Roman555 wrote on 2024-03-11, 15:49:
Vlad94 wrote on 2024-01-08, 01:30:

Now time for second topic, Conroe and 925X chipset.
I used Core 2 Extreme X6800 (only C2D with unlocked multiplier) and ASRock 775XFire-VSTA board.
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Vlad, I've made a topic about ASRock 775XFire-VSTA and Radeon HD incompatibility. Maybe it will be useful for you too .
Have you managed to make Pentium D 9xx 65nm (Presler) work on the board? It's really strange that the mainboard supports Cedar Mill which is a half of Presler but not Presler itself.

Ohh thanks for that! I had same problem with HD5850 on that board (after all i won't use that GPU but Crossfired HD4850's 😁), but BIOS may be still useful for me.

I mean, Pentium D requires SMP, which i915/925 does not have, so Pentium D won't be possible, it is possible to force PD to start in P4 board, but 1 core will be detected anyway.
Core 2 Duo is different story, SMP is not required so it can work with 915/925, and BIOS from that board have code for Conroe (or it seems to have, maybe it starts it by luck like Asus p5gd1-vm?)
Can you check if that BIOS have proper Core 2 code? It works for me with X6800 flawlessly, I just needed to add uCodes 😜

Can you show the pinmod to force pentium d to start in an pentium 4 board?

Reply 62 of 65, by lixkote

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Vlad94 wrote on 2024-01-03, 01:10:
I heard that too, but if I remember correctly, mainboard manufacturers knew about i915 dual-core CPU support, just Intel didn't […]
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VivienM wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:01:

Back in the day, the word on the street was that the i915/i925 had deliberately removed dual-processor/core capability because Intel was upset that some rogue motherboard makers were making dual-processor systems with the 865/875 instead of buying the more expensive chipset with the more expensive official dual processor ability. Not sure what CPUs those boards were running, either - was there still a way to use ordinary consumer CPUs in a multiprocessor rig (as was common in the second half of the 1990s... and continued to be the case in Mac PPC land at that time), or were they using Xeons?

I heard that too, but if I remember correctly, mainboard manufacturers knew about i915 dual-core CPU support, just Intel didn't let them made Pentium D board with that chipset, and in Core 2 times, i915 was dead already so no one bothered.
(or actually ASRock wanted to do i925x Core 2 board in 2006, it supports Cedar Mills officially, but bios is fully compatible with Conroe (still needs pin-modded CPU), even speedstep works, board is 775XFire-VSTA, but I don't want to spoiler too much for now 😜)

VivienM wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:01:

And then, of course, not that long after, they released dual-core chips originally with the 945 chipset and had to put that feature set back in.

Actually 955x is first chipset for dual-core CPUs officially, one month older 😁

Standard Def Steve wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:37:

Hey, that's pretty cool. I wish that my 925XE based Dell would have allowed a like-socketed Core 2 Duo back in the day.

This is like CoffeeTime, except with Core 2. It's WolfTime, woof!

I wish Core 2 Duo for my Optiplex GX280 too, but BIOS is problem sadly, without reverse engineering it adding code for Core 2 initialization would be impossible, thanks Intel.

Heh I remember reading about CoffeeTime, it was impressive research too 😀

Can't you try to flash a GX620 bios on the GX280 to make c2d work? they seem quite simmilar actually.

Reply 63 of 65, by k24a1

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lixkote wrote on 2025-02-04, 12:50:
Vlad94 wrote on 2024-01-03, 01:10:
I heard that too, but if I remember correctly, mainboard manufacturers knew about i915 dual-core CPU support, just Intel didn't […]
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VivienM wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:01:

Back in the day, the word on the street was that the i915/i925 had deliberately removed dual-processor/core capability because Intel was upset that some rogue motherboard makers were making dual-processor systems with the 865/875 instead of buying the more expensive chipset with the more expensive official dual processor ability. Not sure what CPUs those boards were running, either - was there still a way to use ordinary consumer CPUs in a multiprocessor rig (as was common in the second half of the 1990s... and continued to be the case in Mac PPC land at that time), or were they using Xeons?

I heard that too, but if I remember correctly, mainboard manufacturers knew about i915 dual-core CPU support, just Intel didn't let them made Pentium D board with that chipset, and in Core 2 times, i915 was dead already so no one bothered.
(or actually ASRock wanted to do i925x Core 2 board in 2006, it supports Cedar Mills officially, but bios is fully compatible with Conroe (still needs pin-modded CPU), even speedstep works, board is 775XFire-VSTA, but I don't want to spoiler too much for now 😜)

VivienM wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:01:

And then, of course, not that long after, they released dual-core chips originally with the 945 chipset and had to put that feature set back in.

Actually 955x is first chipset for dual-core CPUs officially, one month older 😁

Standard Def Steve wrote on 2024-01-03, 00:37:

Hey, that's pretty cool. I wish that my 925XE based Dell would have allowed a like-socketed Core 2 Duo back in the day.

This is like CoffeeTime, except with Core 2. It's WolfTime, woof!

I wish Core 2 Duo for my Optiplex GX280 too, but BIOS is problem sadly, without reverse engineering it adding code for Core 2 initialization would be impossible, thanks Intel.

Heh I remember reading about CoffeeTime, it was impressive research too 😀

Can't you try to flash a GX620 bios on the GX280 to make c2d work? they seem quite simmilar actually.

The GX620 and GX280 use two different chipsets entirely, the GX620 uses the 945 chipset and the GX280 uses the 915 chipset. Also, the GX620 never supported Core 2 processors. I used to have one of those at some point and I remember the fastest CPUs it could take were the 900 series Pentium D's.

Reply 65 of 65, by greasemonkey90s

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Would be awesome if this would work on intel edition nforce4. Awesome nom the less.