Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-05, 20:02:

That is interesting. Seems like those Quadro cards are binned pretty well. My GTS overclocks pretty well but it get's fairly toa […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-09-18, 01:16:

I picked up a 64 megabyte Asus GF2 MX today and tested it in my 5EMA; all else the same, this card scored about 500 points lower in 3D 2000 than the Quadro 2 Pro.

That is interesting. Seems like those Quadro cards are binned pretty well. My GTS overclocks pretty well but it get's fairly toasty in the process.
All said I still left in in the K6-3+ build. The TnL really does help. I ended up putting the Voodoo 3 in my Pentium III build, along side a Radeon 9250SE PCI card. I switch between the two with the bios.
Clunky but cheaper than a Voodoo 2 SLI setup.

I have lately moved onto getting one of my K6-2+ chips to work in a Toshiba Satellite 1625cdt.
Thanks to and old thread on Hardforum I was able to get it working, if only at 500mhz. Still a worthy upgrade.

I am curious RepoMan11 if this RepoMan in this thread is you? If so thanks for the help!

https://hardforum.com/threads/check-out-my-ha … upgrade.845058/

I didn't last long on [H] 😀 Not long after that, someone made fun of Kyle Bennett's Humvee, and he went on a banning spree. I made the mistake of pointing out that being that thin skinned about a vehicle you own was pretty silly, and I was banned as well. So it goes, the only time I've ever been banned from an online discussion forum.

I ended up giving that computer to a friend who had more use for a laptop than I did, but after a year or maybe two, one of his kids managed to destroy the PCMCIA slot and I ended up getting it back after that. I ended up taking it to Ewaste (in maybe 2009/10 when I had to get rid of a bunch of stuff because I lost use of a storage building) without taking it apart to get the K6-2+ 550 out of it because I had several K6-2+ CPUs already. When I remember things like that and kick myself , I go on to remind myself that even if I had salvaged the CPU, it would have been lost in the fire along with everything else.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-05, 21:08:

Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-05, 20:02:

That is interesting. Seems like those Quadro cards are binned pretty well. My GTS overclocks pretty well but it get's fairly toa […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-09-18, 01:16:

I picked up a 64 megabyte Asus GF2 MX today and tested it in my 5EMA; all else the same, this card scored about 500 points lower in 3D 2000 than the Quadro 2 Pro.

That is interesting. Seems like those Quadro cards are binned pretty well. My GTS overclocks pretty well but it get's fairly toasty in the process.
All said I still left in in the K6-3+ build. The TnL really does help. I ended up putting the Voodoo 3 in my Pentium III build, along side a Radeon 9250SE PCI card. I switch between the two with the bios.
Clunky but cheaper than a Voodoo 2 SLI setup.

I have lately moved onto getting one of my K6-2+ chips to work in a Toshiba Satellite 1625cdt.
Thanks to and old thread on Hardforum I was able to get it working, if only at 500mhz. Still a worthy upgrade.

I am curious RepoMan11 if this RepoMan in this thread is you? If so thanks for the help!

https://hardforum.com/threads/check-out-my-ha … upgrade.845058/

I didn't last long on [H] 😀 Not long after that, someone made fun of Kyle Bennett's Humvee, and he went on a banning spree. I made the mistake of pointing out that being that thin skinned about a vehicle you own was pretty silly, and I was banned as well. So it goes, the only time I've ever been banned from an online discussion forum.

I ended up giving that computer to a friend who had more use for a laptop than I did, but after a year or maybe two, one of his kids managed to destroy the PCMCIA slot and I ended up getting it back after that. I ended up taking it to Ewaste (in maybe 2009/10 when I had to get rid of a bunch of stuff because I lost use of a storage building) without taking it apart to get the K6-2+ 550 out of it because I had several K6-2+ CPUs already. When I remember things like that and kick myself , I go on to remind myself that even if I had salvaged the CPU, it would have been lost in the fire along with everything else.

I hate it when people get all offended about things that really shouldn't matter. The internet can be a strange place at times.
Some good came of it though I stumbled across that thread and it helped me get my jumper settings correct without tearing the whole machine apart. So there is that.

I think we all have some regrets of tossing hardware we shouldn't have. I still don't know what happened to my Packard Bell Legend 386sx machine, nothing fancy but it was my first ever PC and I would love to have one like it now.
I also distinctly remember tossing my PC Chips K6\2 machine which was the first machine I ever worked on\upgraded, as well as my grandmother's Athlon Thunderbird machine which was the first PC I ever built myself.

I also (not that long ago either) stupidly tossed a seemingly dead 486 VLB board of unknown make that "appeared" to be dead. Why did I do that?

With that laptop, I finally settled on Windows 98 SE as the best option. Even with a RAM upgrade and a CPU upgrade, the driver support for Win98 (plus the write allocate utility that only ran on 98) meant that it was the best option of all that I tried.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-06, 20:38:

With that laptop, I finally settled on Windows 98 SE as the best option. Even with a RAM upgrade and a CPU upgrade, the driver support for Win98 (plus the write allocate utility that only ran on 98) meant that it was the best option of all that I tried.

Yeah, that is what I am running on it.
I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 192MB. I have a small HDD in there now, but I will probably upgrade that as well.
I have one other K6-2+ laptop, and HP Omnibook, with a genuine 550mhz chip, but it has a cruddy DSTN screen.
I have a few Pentium MMX ones as well, including a Tillamook, a few PIII ones as well.

The only one that is not running Windows 98SE is the Dell Latitude XPi-CD. It is running 95osr2.5
I do have one Windows XP Pentium M laptop with a ATi 9700Pro, it has XP.

I gave up on trying to do much with Linux, it's just not in my blood. 🤣

Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-07, 02:41:

Yeah, that is what I am running on it. I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 1 […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-06, 20:38:

With that laptop, I finally settled on Windows 98 SE as the best option. Even with a RAM upgrade and a CPU upgrade, the driver support for Win98 (plus the write allocate utility that only ran on 98) meant that it was the best option of all that I tried.

Yeah, that is what I am running on it.
I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 192MB. I have a small HDD in there now, but I will probably upgrade that as well.
I have one other K6-2+ laptop, and HP Omnibook, with a genuine 550mhz chip, but it has a cruddy DSTN screen.
I have a few Pentium MMX ones as well, including a Tillamook, a few PIII ones as well.

The only one that is not running Windows 98SE is the Dell Latitude XPi-CD. It is running 95osr2.5
I do have one Windows XP Pentium M laptop with a ATi 9700Pro, it has XP.

I gave up on trying to do much with Linux, it's just not in my blood. 🤣

That Tilly laptop would be a nice little machine .. is it the 300 Tilly ?

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-07, 05:36:

Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-07, 02:41:

Yeah, that is what I am running on it. I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 1 […]
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Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-10-06, 20:38:

With that laptop, I finally settled on Windows 98 SE as the best option. Even with a RAM upgrade and a CPU upgrade, the driver support for Win98 (plus the write allocate utility that only ran on 98) meant that it was the best option of all that I tried.

Yeah, that is what I am running on it.
I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 192MB. I have a small HDD in there now, but I will probably upgrade that as well.
I have one other K6-2+ laptop, and HP Omnibook, with a genuine 550mhz chip, but it has a cruddy DSTN screen.
I have a few Pentium MMX ones as well, including a Tillamook, a few PIII ones as well.

The only one that is not running Windows 98SE is the Dell Latitude XPi-CD. It is running 95osr2.5
I do have one Windows XP Pentium M laptop with a ATi 9700Pro, it has XP.

I gave up on trying to do much with Linux, it's just not in my blood. 🤣

That Tilly laptop would be a nice little machine .. is it the 300 Tilly ?

No It is a 266mhz model. The machine actually had a 166 when I got it. It takes the little processor module that was so common back in the day. I couldn't find a 300 so I settled for the 266. Still a big upgrade for it.

Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-10, 17:32:

TrashPanda wrote on 2022-10-07, 05:36:

Jasin Natael wrote on 2022-10-07, 02:41:

Yeah, that is what I am running on it. I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 1 […]
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Yeah, that is what I am running on it.
I have a bit of an obsession with retro laptops for some reason. I upgraded the RAM to 192MB. I have a small HDD in there now, but I will probably upgrade that as well.
I have one other K6-2+ laptop, and HP Omnibook, with a genuine 550mhz chip, but it has a cruddy DSTN screen.
I have a few Pentium MMX ones as well, including a Tillamook, a few PIII ones as well.

The only one that is not running Windows 98SE is the Dell Latitude XPi-CD. It is running 95osr2.5
I do have one Windows XP Pentium M laptop with a ATi 9700Pro, it has XP.

I gave up on trying to do much with Linux, it's just not in my blood. 🤣

That Tilly laptop would be a nice little machine .. is it the 300 Tilly ?

No It is a 266mhz model. The machine actually had a 166 when I got it. It takes the little processor module that was so common back in the day. I couldn't find a 300 so I settled for the 266. Still a big upgrade for it.

Yea the 300's seem to be a bit rarer than the 266, still a very nice little machine !

PC-Engineer wrote on 2022-09-06, 10:55:

The GeForce 2 is a very good card for DX7 and earlier in combination with 3DNow! and suitable drivers (12.x or lower), and partl […]
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The GeForce 2 is a very good card for DX7 and earlier in combination with 3DNow! and suitable drivers (12.x or lower), and partly faster than some DX8 successors. It also does not put much load on the AGP, which actually makes it an ideal partner for SS7. The good benchmark results are also reproducible with Q2 and Q3. Later drivers lose the 3DNow! support, which causes the K6-2 and above to lose some performance in games, in addition to the larger overhead. ATI's support for 3DNow! was rather poor compared to nVidia or even 3DFx.

Comparison w(ith) and w/o(ut) 3DNow! support
https://www.anandtech.com/show/160/10
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd,68-3.html

So i recommend to make sure, that your Graphics card and it's drivers makes use of 3DNow!

Also interesting:
https://www.voodooalert.de/board/forum/index. … 9774#post449774

Hello, sorry to resurrect this, but this assumption about the drivers and drop of 3Dnow support is for real?
I mean, do you have proof that after 12.x there is not support and decrease in performance?

PC-Engineer wrote on 2022-09-03, 06:29:

The question is what you want to achieve.

Note that most baby AT boards provide the AGP voltage 3.3V via converters themselves and thus provide a very limited current supply for the graphics card. Many boards have problems with the power requirements of a GF256. This depends on whether the graphics card still has its own converters for 3.3V (from 5V) and distributes the load over the two rails on the AGP.
Many SS7 AT boards can be fed with an ATX power supply, which would then provide enough power on the 3.3V rail, but not all of them use the 3.3V from the ATX power supply, but their own converter.

Hi, I guess this today with my soyo sy-5ehm v1.3.

I just have broken that transistor, responsible of convert 5v. Of AT power in 3,3v. Rail.
Now I have to substitute and I smashed in this situation, that transistor could handle only 3-4A maximum and have a big heatsink attached on it. It's a shame cause it will limitate the possibility to put some powerful card, like mine ATi Radeon 7200 that consume about 23w power. I think a card with a maximum tdp of around 10w is accepted on that board, but I will made some tests when I will have soldered the new transistor substituting the smoked one.
I just ordered a D45H8 transistor. It couls handle 3-4A, perhaps 4,5A current.

Let's see how this works.